Andy M.
Certified Pretend Chef
I don't think our current crop of robot cars is nearly sophisticated enough to be able to make the decisions Asimov's law require. But they make a nice story.
Did Ya'll know there are Self Driving Robot Trucks on the Road in the USA?
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GotGarlic
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Well, plenty of people are thinking and writing about autonomous vehicles and Asimov's laws for robots, so they're not entirely irrelevant. I brought it up to encourage discussion about how to manage the addition of AI-driven autonomous vehicles to society, since it's happening.
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pictonguy
Sous Chef
and no one has yet been able to write such a program that would positively cover every infinitesimal aspect of being able to recognize a human being and make a decision on what action to take.
On a busy street there could be many cars with humans in them, some without humans in them, people walking on sidewalks, getting in their cars, at the stop lights. etc. A robot would have to analyze and decide what action to take in nano seconds.
Granted some people cannot do that either, which is why there are accidents.
I'm not a scientist and cannot even being to think of all the variants and possible scenarios that could take place.
How would they test these computers. They have crash test dummies - but with programs being able to recognize a real human being - the tests will not work on dummies as the computer will know it is not real. Here's for a good movie plot - criminals could volunteer to be the dummies.... if they live ....
Aunt Bea
Master Chef
I’m not sure it would matter much, to me, if I was killed by a car driven by a human vs a car driven by a computer.
If a computer makes an error one fix can update all computers while we can only hope to fix one human at a time with very mixed results.
Imagine the savings involved if we successfully remove humans from the equation. No more DWI or other moving violations, no need for traffic courts and attorneys for millions of minor violations, etc…
If a computer makes an error one fix can update all computers while we can only hope to fix one human at a time with very mixed results.
Imagine the savings involved if we successfully remove humans from the equation. No more DWI or other moving violations, no need for traffic courts and attorneys for millions of minor violations, etc…
I guess some lawyers won't be happy about that. We''ll have to wait to see what could be worked around and I guess script writers will have a field day!
Aunt Bea
Master Chef
Here is an option for the doubters to enjoy a ride without fear. 
GotGarlic
Chef Extraordinaire
Programming for autonomous vehicles takes in data and is given rules to follow and combines those for decision-making. It's not necessary for the programmer to anticipate and program in every possible scenario.
Autonomous vehicles have cameras, motion detectors, proximity detectors, and other sensors that give them a lot more information than humans can gather, and they make decisions a lot faster. And they don't panic.
You might be surprised at how sophisticated computer modeling and simulation is.
Like a lot of newer cars, my Audi SUV has driver aids. It will put on the brakes if the driver is about to hit something. But, that isn't full self driving. My car will also alert me to other cars that are in a blind spot in the next lane. I still have to take any needed corrective action, But the car is giving me a "head's up."
Another thing I like is adaptive cruise control. I set a distance in front of my car for the ACC to maintain, and the system will speed up and slow down automatically as the car ahead of me changes speeds. That is one less task for me to process while driving that 250 mile trip from Dallas to Houston.
Automation like anti-lock brakes and Electronic Stability Control are also great, because they can assist a driver in moderating driving inputs, helping the driver keep control of the car.
So, I do like advanced driver aids, as long the driver knows what they can and can't do, and understands the driver is responsible for driving the car -- so stop texting and drive the car!!!
CD
Another thing I like is adaptive cruise control. I set a distance in front of my car for the ACC to maintain, and the system will speed up and slow down automatically as the car ahead of me changes speeds. That is one less task for me to process while driving that 250 mile trip from Dallas to Houston.
Automation like anti-lock brakes and Electronic Stability Control are also great, because they can assist a driver in moderating driving inputs, helping the driver keep control of the car.
So, I do like advanced driver aids, as long the driver knows what they can and can't do, and understands the driver is responsible for driving the car -- so stop texting and drive the car!!!
CD
jennyema
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I bought a lightly driven 2023 Audi Q5 and its warning features scare the shit out of me every day. I mean they are great but they are also loud and fussy. And a 300 page owners manual.
Still, I love the car and it’s advanced features.
But I’m not a fan of driverless vehicles.
I turn the back-up warning stuff off when I back down my driveway. If I don't, it beeps and boops the entire length. It will automatically turn itself back on the next time you put the car in Reverse. It's only in my driveway that I turn it off.
My blindspot warning is set to only show a visual warning, a yellow light in the sideview mirrors. No beeps or boops.
If you have the full Infotainment system, there is an electronic owner's manual in there that has some menu options to turn some settings on and off.
CD
