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Old 03-07-2008, 10:45 AM   #11
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Yeah-- it must be the same thing with me. I can eat chinese food just fine... but if it comes with a dry powder and you make it at home (like ramen noodles and noodle soups and the like) it kills me. But I know I eat things with MSG when I go out for Chinese food, and it doesn't bother me at all.

Is there more than one kind of MSG or something? Or maybe it's just an ingredient in those stupid soups...

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Old 03-07-2008, 11:03 AM   #12
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Hmm... Psychogenic pain (somatoform), or perhaps more widely known Psychosomatic effects.


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Old 03-07-2008, 12:12 PM   #13
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This is why the double-blind placebo-controlled method of scientific research was developed - up to one-third of medical research subjects will respond to a placebo.

Here's more from Understanding the Design of Different Scientific Studies :
"...the scientific community places the most value on the double-blind, placebo-controlled study that uses random assignment of subjects to experimental and control groups. Considered the "gold standard" of clinical research studies, the double-blind, placebo-controlled study provides dependable findings that are free of bias introduced by either the subject or the researcher. In this type of study, neither the subject nor the researcher conducting the study knows whether the test substance or a placebo has been administered. For the results to be valid and to ensure that the subject cannot violate the "blinding," the placebo and the test substance must be virtually identical (i.e., look, smell, and taste similar)."
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Old 03-17-2008, 12:05 AM   #14
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besides asian foods, many prepared or boxed spanish foods have msg in their ingredients.

i guess south and central america and china haven't heard that they're supposed to feel sick from this stuff.
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Old 03-17-2008, 02:01 AM   #15
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One trip to the ER for a migraine hypo and you'll know whether it's psychobabble or not ... for me, it's very real. I also find that sodium in general in prepared foods is becoming a problem. When in doubt, keep a food journal. I didn't want to believe it myself, until I had a bad reaction in an unexpected situation (NOT a Chinese restaurant) and she brought out the ingredients, and there it was on the label.
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:58 AM   #16
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One trip to the ER for a migraine hypo and you'll know whether it's psychobabble or not ... for me, it's very real. I also find that sodium in general in prepared foods is becoming a problem. When in doubt, keep a food journal. I didn't want to believe it myself, until I had a bad reaction in an unexpected situation (NOT a Chinese restaurant) and she brought out the ingredients, and there it was on the label.
I don't think anyone meant to say that it's not possible for any person to have a bad reaction to MSG - just that it's not as widespread as many people seem to think.
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Oh I know and was not offended. But if you say something bothers you, it's easy for people (myself included) to make that assumption. I got the very same migraine reaction from Splenda when I tried (too many of) the carmel popcorn rice cakes without reading the label, so no artificial sweeteners for me either. I'm in trouble if I end up diabetic.
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Old 03-17-2008, 11:43 AM   #18
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I used to get a headache after every time I ate Chinese food. Amazingly, it started just after I first learned about MSG and Chinese Food Syndrome ....

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One trip to the ER for a migraine hypo and you'll know whether it's psychobabble or not ... for me, it's very real.

I tend to agree.

I too get migraines. The real ones with blind spots, Aura and the 'Oh My God if I poke my eyes out/ cut my head off will they/it stop hurting?" type pain, NOT the Woosie migraines of pop culture.

I've noticed many things called food will trigger a migraine AND OTHER neurological phenomena not necessarily resulting in migraine but in other weird stuff.

For some of us it's very real.

Others don't believe it because they don't know any better. Their lucky.
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I tend to agree.

I too get migraines. The real ones with blind spots, Aura and the 'Oh My God if I poke my eyes out/ cut my head off will they/it stop hurting?" type pain, NOT the Woosie migraines of pop culture.

I've noticed many things called food will trigger a migraine AND OTHER neurological phenomena not necessarily resulting in migraine but in other weird stuff.

For some of us it's very real.

Others don't believe it because they don't know any better. Their lucky.

I don't think anyone is trying to minimize or refute the severity or reality of migraines from MSG sensitivity or any other cause.

What I got from this thread is that the initial hysteria wildly overstated the number of people who are effected by a sensitivity to MSG and triggered psychosomatic reactions in some.
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