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Old 07-02-2008, 05:18 PM   #31
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Naw..Naw Miss Elf...It's reach for the chocolate milk shake/malt!!
You're not going to believe this...but I had written "or a chocolate shake" and then deleted it!!!!! I'm with you on this one - and those fries have to be kind of extra salty too when scooping in a shake.
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Old 07-02-2008, 05:29 PM   #32
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And where did you get the Mayan information? Asia was the birthplace of catsup, at least that was my understanding.

wwwPERIODchina.org.cn/english/MATERIAL/15452PERIODhtm

The Chinese may well have brought back early ketchup recipes from the Americas.
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Old 07-02-2008, 05:30 PM   #33
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I can't post URLS yet. Take the 'PERIOD' out and replace it with '.' to have your entire view of ancient cooking completely upended.
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Old 07-02-2008, 05:37 PM   #34
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that is fine, and i know of the thought. the ancient Asians were a sea faring community, they have even found what look to be ancient anchors, similar to what was used up until recently...

any who, then it would still be from Asia, not the Mayans. And nowhere among those relics were a Heinz bottle. Just my opinion.
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Old 07-02-2008, 07:27 PM   #35
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The theory is full of speculation, conjecture, and old fashion guesswork. The website itself states no hard proof/evidence has been found to support such a claim! This is simply an undocumented story intended to improperly create a link between two Ancient civilizations, their cultures etc…What am I missing? I saw no mention of Ketchup. For now, my Humble Opinion will remain with Ketchup having its origins in Asia.
Thanks for an interesting dialogue!!

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Old 07-02-2008, 07:41 PM   #36
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Ketchup on burgers, fries and pork sausages, only. I grew up in Chicago where we never would put it on hot dogs.
Speak for yourself!! It just aint a Chicago dog without ketchup and mustard!
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Old 07-02-2008, 08:28 PM   #37
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Ketchup; that red, sweet, tomato and corn syrup sauce with a hint of cloves, some salt, and a couple of other things is pretty good stuff, but due to the high corn syrup amount, not very heathy. But there is a place in my pantry, and on my table for the upbiquitous sauce.

In the Phillipines, ketchup is made from bananas. And in reality, kectchup is to sauce in Asian and tropical islands what salsa is to South America. It comes in many and wonderous varieties and is made from many different things. Only in the U.S. has it become so standardized.

I enjoy U.S style ketchups with the right hot dogs, and spicy-brown mustards with especially good hot dogs. Sometimes I'll put it on a burger, and sometimes not, as my mood dictates.

The same is true of everything I put ketchup on. I don't use it exclusively, and sometimes it's used in combination with other condiments.

I've seen people put U.S. style ketchup on some pretty strange things, like french toast, ham sandwiches, ice cream, pickles, etc. But then again, I've seen people dip their french fries into some very strange things as well.

Food is something different to all people. But there are a few things, that in my humble opinion, scream for ketchup. These include breaded shrimp (but horseradish has to be mixed into the ketchup), kielbasa and polish sausage, and grilled batwurst sausage. The sweetness of the ketchup ballances the saltiness of the sausage, and marrys well with the crunchy breadding on the shrimp. Oh, and fresh brook trout, dusted with flour and salt, and pan fried until golden brown need ketchup, sometimes. If you haven't had fresh perch fillets, cooked in butter and put between two slices of bread with fried potato rounds and ketchup, then you are missing out.

And that's all I'm going to say about that!

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Old 07-02-2008, 08:42 PM   #38
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I want to try ketchup now! I always just thought it was a different word for tomato sauce. But all the references to corn syrup make me think it must be something rather different!
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well, in your corner of the world, it might just be the same as ketchup.
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well, in your corner of the world, it might just be the same as ketchup.
Yes... although I'd never describe tomato sauce as sweet in any way. I mean, it might have a bit of sugar in it, but it's by no means sweet.

Anyway, if they are the same thing, it has no bad rap here! I wouldn't put it on a steak, but that's a taste thing. We always have a bottle handy.
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