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Old 01-21-2005, 06:48 PM   #21
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Paint I complely understand what you said (do not apologize) and agree that the differences in English and American makes for some misundersandings. I visit my family in Norway often and I have to remind myself to speak ENGLISH or I am having to repeat myself. The same in restaurants there, do not ask to change the menu. Sometimes when I am out here, children are screaming and parents seem deaf. I saw a couple who put their children at a separate booth within eye shot but a few booths away and proceeded to ignore their lousy behavior yelling, throwing food, taking other's food, etc. (rather like Lord of the FLies) The oldest was about 9 and the youngest was 2-3. On my way out, I walked by the table where the parents were sitting and said "I feel so sorry for those children. I am going to talk to the security guard outside to see if he can find the parents because kids that young should go out alone, don't you agree? Maybe he can find the parents." I watched from my car and the mom went to the table took the kids to sit with them.
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Old 01-21-2005, 06:50 PM   #22
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norges you have a standing ovation from me.
you are awesome
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Old 01-21-2005, 06:54 PM   #23
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norges you have a standing ovation from me.
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Old 01-21-2005, 07:22 PM   #24
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norgeskog - My son and I were sitting having something to drink at the mall and I watched a couple sit with their 3 children at the SAME table - they were running everywhere - throwing things "at" the trash can - the one holding the lid open would shut it quickly as the other was literally throwing their food in it - they were pouring their drinks on the floor and making a mess out of the drink and food that they spilled - all the while the parents just sat intently talking - probably very glad that they did not have to clean up the mess that was usually made at home. One of the workers came over and said "please stop" and the parents barely glanced over at their kids and never said a word. All of us sitting at tables around them just looked at one another in total amazement.

And the kids weren't even quiet - they were quite loud and disruptive - but like I said - they were probably glad it wasn't happening at their home for a change.
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Old 01-21-2005, 07:25 PM   #25
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norgeskog - My son and I were sitting having something to drink at the mall and I watched a couple sit with their 3 children at the SAME table - they were running everywhere - throwing .
kitchennisse, whew I thought for a minute you were going to blast me cause you were the parents I spoke to. I think that type of parenting is abusive to the children. Children want to know what is expected of them. Loving and understanding parents are better than ignoring ignorant ones.
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Old 01-21-2005, 08:21 PM   #26
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roflmao - wouldn't that be a co-inkiedinkie!!!!
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Old 01-21-2005, 08:42 PM   #27
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Well I have to agree that "gimmie ' and 'I want" do not work in my house at all........never have, never will. I was taught by my brit mom to keep elbows off the table, no chewing with my mouth open and no speaking with food in my mouth. We were sent away from the table for these infractions. When my daughter was young some of the first words she learned were "please' "thank you" and "I'm sorry" which leads into one of my more embarassing kid related resturant stories..............





We went to our local diner with her when she was about 2.5 yrs old, we were seated behind a nice older couple, who, naturally took notice of such a young cute kid. The woman offered her crackers to Monique and I said "what do you say?" .................................Monique in her tender young age says......................"I'm sorry" lordy that was embarassing!
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Old 01-21-2005, 10:41 PM   #28
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I once made a tapas party, and one brother in law liked the shrimp. He proceeded to sit down and eat ....all of it. One in law yellled, "how gross" when I took a rare roast of of the grill (intending to slice it, then cook to each person's desire). Once someone put food on my kitchen counter and fed their dog. The odd part is that I, until I left Florida, was beginning to believe I was wrong and picky or something. Once when we were in California (if I think long enough, I'll come up with where we were), a store owner made a point of saying something because my husband took off his hat when we entered the place. In the military, the only time you keep you hat on inside is if you are bearing arms. I know, most of you will think it's silly, but I do ask men to remove their hats at my table.
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Old 01-21-2005, 11:20 PM   #29
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Children do not learn without practice! When my son was young we would "put our manners on at the table" and he learned proper etiquitte for eating anywhere. I was frequently complimented on his manners when we were in public. Sometimes it helps to make a game of it but you do your children no favors if you fail to teach them good table behavior!

My parents had no education in that regard - I went to a parochial school and the nuns taught me good table manners. The one thing they didn't teach me was how to eat chicken with a knife and fork! It was always finger food at home! My mother never served chicken that wasn't fried.

The first time I had dinner at my InLaw's house of course they served chicken...what a nightmare! After that hubby taught me and my son & I learned together how to finesse the meat off a chicken breast with no fingers! For several months we had practice chicken at home.

Good manners is only the art of making those around you comfortable.

When we were out in public I would take my son into the ladies room to discipline him - (at a very young age, of course) and in a short time all I had to say to remind him to behave was "do you need to go to the restroom?" Instant compliance! To this day he claims it was because his food would have dissappeared when he returned!

As an adult I took a course in table manners - until then I considered myself well mannered - there are always things to learn!

When I go out for a nice meal I have zero tolerance for screaming babies or rude children. Take them home and teach them how to behave! DH accuses me of giving "killer" looks to the parents - guilty! He's lucky I stay at our table!
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Old 01-21-2005, 11:33 PM   #30
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Well said as always, :D 8)
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