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Old 01-22-2005, 02:20 AM   #31
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Thank you all so much, we thought ourselves the odd ducks.

We have found kids in restaurants are often very well mannered and have often complimented the parent(s) on their fine behavior.

But have been in restaurants where kids were running, yelling, doing everything discussed above (talking about at least moderately priced restaurants here, not McD's or other places where feral children appear to be the norm).

It has always seemed that everyone else was able to take the behavior in stride, while it was driving us crazy and ruining the dining experience.

Thanks for letting us know we are not alone.

Now that we have gotten older we try to fight back.

If we see this happening when we walk in, will tell the seater/waiter that we are leaving and why.

If it starts to happen while we are already eating, will tell the waiter we wish to be moved, yep, take our plates to another table away from the offending tykes.

If they will not, tell them this is the last meal for us at the place and ask to talk to the manager.

Wait staff does not want to deal with unruly children, actually they don't want to deal with their parents.

Once they learn they are losing money because of their unwillingless to take care of the problem, they may change their ways. Or maybe not.

Anyway, it makes us feel better.
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Old 01-22-2005, 04:20 AM   #32
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Everyone one of us has been told to clean their plates because....I remember starving people somewhere, but other than these two I do not remember any.
China. For me it was always China.

My caretaker at the time was a lousy cook, really terrible. At age five, I remember thinking, when admonished about "the starving children in China": "Yeah, well, send them this crap. Then they won't be starving anymore."


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Old 01-22-2005, 04:22 PM   #33
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Ive found the best word to learn is "please". I learned this as a kid in Germany. Please in many countries will substitute for "excuse me", and i learned to start virtually every sentence with it. Was talking to hubby about this subject line, and obviously he agrees. Lyndaloo (I'm sure I misspelled this and will check to make sure I'm referring to the right person), a number of years ago I went to a freinds' home for dinner (a lifetime friend), and was apalled to see her son's table manners. This, the child of a French woman who my mom used to hold up as a shining example of great manners. When I lived in Germany, Mom wouldn't allow us to order chicken on the bone because at that time in Europe no one ate chicken (rabbit, whatever) with their fingers the way we did. My (French) freind would come over to our house and totally clean her chicken without ever touching it. But she still managed to raise a kid who had absolutely NO manners. I kinda get a kick here .... you go and order fried chicken or pizza, and locally the folk kind of hold down the chicken or pizza with one finger, then eat it with a fork. Once upon a time, a freind told me she was scared to go to a dining out/military ball because she was afraid her manners wouldn't pass muster. Hubby told her something that always holds true. Use the flatwear from the outside in, and always wait for someone else to start (no matter what, eating, drinking, dancing, even talking) so you can observe how those around you behave and know what is going on, and can follow. This will hold you in good stead even among follk from different countries. And, we'll agree with the whole here, you can't go wrong by taking "I" out of your conversation as much as possible.
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Old 01-22-2005, 07:25 PM   #34
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Everyone one of us has been told to clean their plates because....I remember starving people somewhere, but other than these two I do not remember any.
China. For me it was always China.

My caretaker at the time was a lousy cook, really terrible. At age five, I remember thinking, when admonished about "the starving children in China": "Yeah, well, send them this crap. Then they won't be starving anymore."

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Old 01-22-2005, 07:29 PM   #35
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With my post above about the unruly kids, I have also walked by parents whose children were exceptionally well behaved and told them it was a pleasure to dine where they were. ALso told the kids they should thank their parents for caring enough to teach them the proper way to behave in public. I always felt if I could b....ch about the misbehaving brats, I should also praise the ones who behave.
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Old 01-22-2005, 08:22 PM   #36
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I, too, make it a point to compliment parents for their children's good behavior in restaurants. I abhor unruly children running about and just generally being obnoxious. I remember when my youngest was about 3 1/2 and we were at a very nice restaurant on Christmas day. As we entered the dining room you could almost cut the tension with a knife. We sat down, had a lovely dinner, and-guess what-other diners came up to tell us what a lovely child we had! They oohed and aahed over her, making her giggle. It was a very enjoyable afternoon for all.
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Old 01-22-2005, 08:42 PM   #37
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Everyone one of us has been told to clean their plates because....I remember starving people somewhere, but other than these two I do not remember any.
China. For me it was always China.

My caretaker at the time was a lousy cook, really terrible. At age five, I remember thinking, when admonished about "the starving children in China": "Yeah, well, send them this crap. Then they won't be starving anymore."

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Good answer Cats.
However, my dear friends, I can tell you from personal experience that it is NOT a good (or prudent) answer to give the Nun who is standing over you in grade school! I ate standing up for a week! :?
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Old 01-22-2005, 09:31 PM   #38
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The best hotel we ever stayed in had a 'nursery' where meals were served to guests children, children were not allowed in the main dining room. I loved that idea at the time......but now, having a child with a potentially fatal food allergy, I think I'd be a bit nervous about her eating under a stranger's supervision.

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Old 01-22-2005, 09:34 PM   #39
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What are "manners". I like to lick my fingers and drink my soup out of the bowl. Burping is good too. :P
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Everyone one of us has been told to clean their plates because....I remember starving people somewhere, but other than these two I do not remember any.
China. For me it was always China.

My caretaker at the time was a lousy cook, really terrible. At age five, I remember thinking, when admonished about "the starving children in China": "Yeah, well, send them this crap. Then they won't be starving anymore."

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Good answer Cats.
However, my dear friends, I can tell you from personal experience that it is NOT a good (or prudent) answer to give the Nun who is standing over you in grade school! I ate standing up for a week! :?
oops, guess that was not the best idea.
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