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Old 02-10-2007, 12:11 PM   #1
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Unhappy Big Kids

I guess I've been pent up prior to joining DC! I hope nobody gets annoyed at how much I plan on sharing with everyone! LOL. I have a 3 year old (turns 4 in August) daughter. She is currently at 62 lbs and her height is 42 1/2 inches (which is past the height of a 4 toddler I think). Since birth to 15 mo., her doctors would tell me feed her (formula, cereal, etc) on demand. She was ALWAYS eating! My mother in law wasn't happy. My daughter was gaining weight FAST! Doctors still said nothing. She was 4 months old when she got RSV (had NO idea what this was at the time) and the DR's said it was a good thing she was chubby, because she lost more weight than she should have. And they still said it was ok for her to eat the way she did. Finally at 15 months, I found a doctor who said we had a problem. She was too big. She's 3 now and wearing size 8-10 GIRLS pants. She doesn't eat enough to explain her size and she's quite active. I've been to 7 pediatricians. I dread when she goes to school, if she's still big. She's already really tall for her age, and kids can be SOOO cruel. Since I'm pregnant again, I've been told I can't even pick her up because she's too big. Do toddler's go on diets? Is it safe? What foods are best for them? And is OJ (Sunny D) really good for them? It's getting harder to trust Doctors when I've already been to 7 and a specialist. Their opinions are so scattered in different directions I don't know what to do. I just want her to be happy and healthy and complex free.


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Old 02-10-2007, 12:20 PM   #2
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I'm not familiar with RSV, but I do know a bit about kids. (Mine are a little older, 11 and 14). But the best advice I can give is to feed the kids food that was readily available 100 years ago. Things like fresh orange juice are fine but not sunnyD - too many other ingreds. Fresh fruits, fresh vegetables and meat cooked in a healthy way (not fried, processed) is so much better for their little bellies. Milk is great! Eggs are great!
Train yourself to bypass all fast food places. (honestly, why eat if there's no good food value?) Make a list of farmer's markets around you and visit them often!
As for worrying about how other kids are, remember, some kids will just pick on other kids for no apparent reason. Not just because they are tall, but they will do it because the other kid is too small, or they have weird hair, or they have too many freckles, or wear glasses, or have a green bicycle, or their Dad drives an old car....and the list goes on. Your daughter will do fine when she finds true friends that like her for who she is.

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Old 02-10-2007, 12:35 PM   #3
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Your daughter is extremely tall. And it makes sence that she would weigh more than a child shorter. But it is still got to make sre that she is eating a healthy diet and has a good start on a lifetime of healthy eating habits.

One thing I know is that children (under 6 years old) are not supposed to drink more than 1 cup of 100% fruit juice and NEVER drink those "fruit beverages". Sunny D is not orange juice it is "beverage" which means that it is a lot of flavouring and sugar.

The sugars in juice and beverages are hard on the teeth and can contribute to weight gain.

She should be drinking milk and water. The 1 cup of juice should be diluted (you do not want to give your daughter a sweet tooth).

Like jkath said, serve healthy foods.
No deep fried foods, avoid refined sugars and flours, avoid anything with corn syrup, fructose, or glucose. It is hard at first to get used to making food from scratch but it is worth it to give your daughter and other children healthy eating habits for life.

Don't "reward" or "punish" your children with food - it leads to a lifetime of bad habits. (One of the reasons so many people USE food like a drug is because of this common practise.)

Remeber kids learn from example - everybody in your household needs to eat a healthy diet too.

Don't expect results overnight. I'm sure she will grow into some of her weight and some of the weight is just because she is tall. With a healthy diet everything should balance out.
Sounds like she will make a great volleyball or basketball player one day.

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Old 02-10-2007, 03:00 PM   #4
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Treat your child like a happy kid. Never deprive them of kid foods. We could not always afford to go to McDonalds for a happy meal. I bought lunch bags and we colored pictures on them or pasted magazine pictures on them. They got a toy and put it in the bag. I cooked a burger and fries and put it in little tupperware containers and in the bag it went. We usually put a lil Debbie or a pudding cup, or jello cup in as a treat. Drink was a sippy cup of Juicey Juice.
I never gave them big food like a chicken breast. We consumed many cheesy chicken nuggets.
Many times we learned to make and share our food. I would put out peanut butter and grape jam on a saucer for each. On another plate (usually paper plate), was two slices of bread. And with a spoon and knife, we made pb&j's. Then we traded our sandwiches. Nothing washes down a pb&j like a cold glass of milk.
For snack time, we sometimes did a living room camp out. I bought small cans of pork n' beans, and made some cheese cubes and crackers. I threw a vinyle table cloth on the living room floor. They had one of those little indoor pop up tents. We ate our beans straight out of the can with a plastic spoon and had bottled water.
Never make your kids finish everything on their plate. When they are full, they are full.
We used to count the green peas on our plate. Then we ate a few and recounted the peas left.
Probably, we had 6-8 tiny mini meals a day rather than three.
Breakfast might start with a poptart on the porch. We really liked cheese boats for breakfast (cheese melted on english muffin), a few scrambles and an apple or orange slice.
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Old 02-10-2007, 07:01 PM   #5
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Wow. This is great. I DO (or did) reward good behavior with cookies or snacks. I don't even know how it started...anyway, I'm Italian and so we eat alot of pastas. She eats snacks like celery with fat free cream cheese, apples with peanut butter, banana's, etc. But 10 minutes after that she's hungry again. I know kids will be kids and find mean things to say...it's just she's already so tall...But she DOES eat more happy meals than I'd like. I am definitely taking this advice to heart. I can't believe the sunny D info. I had NO idea. Reading the labels would be a GREAT start. Great mom I am. She goes thru about 3 jugs a week of Sunny D. NO MORE!! To new beginnings...
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Old 02-10-2007, 09:05 PM   #6
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My landlord's son is only 15, yet he's taller and bigger than me and weighs the same as me - 240lbs!! He's a very big boy for his age!!
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Old 02-10-2007, 09:13 PM   #7
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Healthy Choices

I'm glad we could offer some help.

3 jugs of Sunny D! Wow! I found when I gave up drinking juice and making sure that I ate 4-5 servings/day of fruits and 4-5/day of veggies I lost weight without having to do anything else.
Since you eat a lot of pasta you should also try the whole wheat pastas - they are yummy!
Those snacks that you are giving her sound great. Maybe try giving her some more fibre to fill her up (see the muffin recipe) and asking her to have her snack then go do something for 30mins before she eats more than what you put out (it takes your brain and stomach 20-30mins to register that you are full). Also she should have a glass of water with every meal/snack and at least two glasses of milk/day. Dehydration is often confused with hunger.

I am so glad that you are being such a great mom and looking out for your children's future. Every healthy choice you make now contributes to a lifetime of healthy choices for your children and their children too.

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Old 02-10-2007, 09:25 PM   #8
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i would just watch the sugary snacks and take out.sounds like she already likes some snacks a 3 year old would turn their nose up at(mine). Maybe she needs a little more of the healthy snacks at snack time then maybe she won't be hungry ten minutes later.
I know when my 4 year old is going through a growth spurt,he can eat all the time.i am not the best at stopping the sugary snacks either,but i do try and even it out. tonight he turned his nose up at the chicken(favorite) to have broccoli...so he got all he wanted of that.
i'm not a doctor just a mom, but if you watch the little things and she is active(3 i'm sure she is) then that's a good start for later in life~hmmm guess i could take some of my own advice and cut down on the sugar intake going around this house
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Old 02-10-2007, 09:40 PM   #9
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First of all, Sunny Delight is one of the worst things since Kool-Aid to give a child to drink. It has so little nutritional value it is scary! As far as regular juice, you have to remember that when drinking fruit juice, your child is getting all the sugar of the original fruit, in a condensed form, without any of the fiber that controls the absorption of that sugar.

As a nutritionist, my opinion is to ask your child's doctor for a referal to a registered dietician, preferably one that specializes in children. 65% of Americans are overweight, and 35% of those are obese. Right now, one out of every three American children will suffer from obesity, and the type II diabetes and heart disease that goes with it. And those figures will slowly but surely nudge upward every year unless we do somethiong about it.
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Old 02-10-2007, 10:01 PM   #10
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Poutine: 3 jugs of Sunny D! Wow! She's a kid! All things come in small sizes! That could mean individual size jugs (6 oz). You fill their sipper cup and find it half full the next time they are thirsty; pour it out, rinse, refill.
They ask for some Sunny D, you give them some and then make yourself a glass. It happens.

For those who love SUNNY D as much as I do, you will be happy to know that orange/tangerine 100% juice put out by Tropicana taste very much like Sunny D.

The 90's people lived for Sunny Delight! And Gatorade.

Children grow at different rates. J. was the least tall boy until 9th grade. Now he is 5'8". B. was the tallest girl in the 5th grade. She graduated in 2004 and was 5'0" tall.

Thanks for the recipe, I have been looking for one like this for a long time.

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