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Old 08-12-2017, 08:22 AM   #1
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Clean Eating- Guardian Newspaper Article

Hi everyone! Thought you might be interested in following article. What are YOUR thoughts on all this?

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...-clean-eating?


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Old 08-12-2017, 08:34 AM   #2
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Hi everyone! Thought you might be interested in following article. What are YOUR thoughts on all this?

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...-clean-eating?
I saw this a few days ago.

"She was a “gluten-free, sugar-free, oil-free, grain-free, legume-free, plant-based raw vegan”."

"But the “clean” diet that Younger was selling as the route to health was making its creator sick. Far from being super-healthy, she was suffering from a serious eating disorder: orthorexia, an obsession with consuming only foods that are pure and perfect. Younger’s raw vegan diet had caused her periods to stop and given her skin an orange tinge from all the sweet potato and carrots she consumed (the only carbohydrates she permitted herself)."

She wasn't just suffering from orthorexia; she was suffering from malnutrition. No oil or butter or other fat means the body cannot absorb vitamins A, D, E or K. The body also needs carbohydrates to survive. Her periods stopped because her eating habits could not sustain her own body, much less that of a possible child.

This is why I have always hated the term "clean eating." It implies that any other way of eating is dirty and wrong and can lead to this kind of extremism, or guilt that you're not living like this.
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:22 AM   #3
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I saw this a few days ago.

"She was a “gluten-free, sugar-free, oil-free, grain-free, legume-free, plant-based raw vegan”."

"But the “clean” diet that Younger was selling as the route to health was making its creator sick. Far from being super-healthy, she was suffering from a serious eating disorder: orthorexia, an obsession with consuming only foods that are pure and perfect. Younger’s raw vegan diet had caused her periods to stop and given her skin an orange tinge from all the sweet potato and carrots she consumed (the only carbohydrates she permitted herself)."

She wasn't just suffering from orthorexia; she was suffering from malnutrition. No oil or butter or other fat means the body cannot absorb vitamins A, D, E or K. The body also needs carbohydrates to survive. Her periods stopped because her eating habits could not sustain her own body, much less that of a possible child.

This is why I have always hated the term "clean eating." It implies that any other way of eating is dirty and wrong and can lead to this kind of extremism, or guilt that you're not living like this.
All of which works on your calcium intake, putting the calcium into your bones instead of your arteries.

To me "Clean Eating" means minimally processed foods. I avoid sugar and carbs, because of my diabetes. My downfall these days is rye bread.
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Many folks today are so in need of a simple fix that will make all their problems go away, they'll grab onto any fad that comes along in hopes of a solution.
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One look at one of these raw eating, walking cadavers should be all you need to see.
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Many folks today are so in need of a simple fix that will make all their problems go away, they'll grab onto any fad that comes along in hopes of a solution.
Yup. You hear it all the time. "All the experts are wrong. I have the real truth. Any thing different is fake." And around such assertions, cults are created. MyFitnessPal.com is a useful tool but it is also a place where fanatical adherents to every crackpot "nutritional" fad congregate and proselytize. And no amount of logic or evidence will dissuade the believers because it becomes a matter of faith and tribal allegiance.
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Human beings are amazingly adaptable, when you think about it. Despite being around in our present form for tens of thousands of years, we have many different views on what exactly constitutes the perfect diet. Some say veganism is best. Others stress low carb. Or low fat. Or mostly fish. Others say you need a balance. We seem to be able to survive (although not necessarily thrive) on many different diets.

But the funny thing is - and this seems to be a uniquely human trait - is that every one of us who believes we're eating "healthy" is convinced that our diet is absolutely the best, and that everyone else is wrong.

Last night I was in Hy-Vee and saw a couple at the checkout. They looked to be somewhere in their fifties, or maybe early sixties. In their cart they had two cases of Twinkies, a case of Little Debbies, a case of Mountain Dew, and three or four different types of chips/snack foods. Not a veggie in sight. They were obviously alive, but didn't look particularly healthy. In my estimation, their diet isn't the best. But I could be wrong about that.

Myself, I eat a lot like PF: low carb, higher fat, moderate protein. Every so often I might sneak a little bite of potato here and there. As a diabetic, this way of eating seems to work for keeping my blood sugar down and my metabolism functioning normally. Would I advocate my diet being for everyone? Absolutely not.
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Human beings are amazingly adaptable, when you think about it. Despite being around in our present form for tens of thousands of years, we have many different views on what exactly constitutes the perfect diet. Some say veganism is best. Others stress low carb. Or low fat. Or mostly fish. Others say you need a balance. We seem to be able to survive (although not necessarily thrive) on many different diets.

But the funny thing is - and this seems to be a uniquely human trait - is that every one of us who believes we're eating "healthy" is convinced that our diet is absolutely the best, and that everyone else is wrong...
It sounds like you're talking about religions rather than diets. You could substitute the word religion for diet and the general intent of the statement would be right on.
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I believe in eating real food and I prefer to eat food that is in season where I live. That includes fats, veggies, fruits, dairy, and meat. I don't eat processed foods. I also don't eat bread, pasta, white rice. One of the things I have noticed, is that I don't have cravings and I have no inclination to eat between meals.Because I eat my biggest meal in the morning, I am not hungry in the evening. That's when I eat steamed or raw veggies, fruit, maybe some cottage cheese. Our grandparents used to consume most of their calories in the a.m. and afternoon. It works for me. The only time I eat in the evening, is when I am making walleye from LOW.

I have been eating this way for about 7 years. Do I feel deprived? No.
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Last night I was in Hy-Vee and saw a couple at the checkout. They looked to be somewhere in their fifties, or maybe early sixties. In their cart they had two cases of Twinkies, a case of Little Debbies, a case of Mountain Dew, and three or four different types of chips/snack foods. Not a veggie in sight. They were obviously alive, but didn't look particularly healthy. In my estimation, their diet isn't the best. But I could be wrong about that.
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Your assumption that what you saw in their cart truly represents their diet could be wrong or not. But if that is their diet, the quality of nutrition is terrible and that is not a matter of opinion or an issue on which there are two sides worthy of consideration.

The ability to tell black from white from shades of gray is not always easy. But sometimes it is. Facts are real things. So are wisdom and discernment.
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