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Old 03-09-2010, 12:15 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by BeachChick View Post
Oh, and I do make my own taco seasoning!! :)

I do too, but there is nothing wrong with it for the time pressed masses of the world.

Veggies were almost destroyed for me when I was a kid. My Mom couldn't cook to save her life. All of our veggies came out of a can. Have you ever eaten a canned carrot?! It has to be one of the most horrible flavors on the planet.

As an adult I knew I had to eat veggies and I noticed that I loved the raw veggie platters at parties so I worked to try to cook but stay as close to the raw state as possible. Steaming works wonders!

My own children have reaped the benefits of my veggie phobias. They now enjoy most veggies. Brocolli, aspergas(sp), squash, brussel sprouts... They have come to appreciate the subtle flavors.

How old are your youngsters?

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Old 03-09-2010, 12:44 PM   #32
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I love hearing about your experiences with your grandchildren! And I truly appreciate your advice. My mom passed away in 2007. I don't have her to turn to. (And with food, my friends and relatives just let their kids eat whatever they want so I can't really seek their advice!)

I have seen so many bad examples of parenting over the years. I am trying so hard to do all the right things: my children always say please and thank you, they always ask if they may be excused from the table, etc. If they walk in front of somebody in the store (mainly because they aren't paying attention to what they are doing), I make them stop, turn around and say, "Excuse me please." (That's how they learn!!)

With food, I tried to make the right decisions. I didn't push sweet foods on them as babies ("dessert baby food", ice cream, sweet cookies, cake, donuts). They have their whole life for that. To them, a fresh fruit salad is a huge treat! They love it. The non-picky-eater daughter does like chocolate and I let her have some chocolate covered pretzels or chocolate covered raisins occasionally. (She didn't even taste chocolate until she was 2.5 years old.) I make cupcakes as a treat once in a while (every three or four months). We have a few Dunkin Munchkins once in a while - only after a healthy breakfast (usually just when on vacation).

I encouraged veggies and fruits and didn't give them deli meat or hotdogs. I have friends whose kids will only eat hotdogs, boxed mac & cheese, french fries and junk food. The parents tell me, "Johnny will only drink soda!" Really? Why does Johnny (age 4) even know what soda tastes like?! I had a friend whose child would eat only McDonalds french fries. So they would pick up a bag of fries whenever they went anywhere for dinner and bring along fries for the child. Kids LEARN those habits from their parents.

I can handle every other aspect of parenting. My kids are polite. They help clean the table. They have "responsibility charts" and daily chores. They make messes, but they help clean them up, too. They very rarely throw fits or refuse to do things we tell them to do...they know who is in charge. ;) We take a very non-nonsense approach with them. But I really struggle with demanding that my daughter try things. She cries and cries. We insist and she'll eventually try it, but it makes dinner very trumatic....and she usually ends up with a negative opinion of the food because of the stressful situation. My other daughter ends up in tears because she gets so upset from listening to an hour of crying during the meal.

"Tricks" work on my other daughter!! Sometimes she'll say she doesn't want something simply to raise some controversy. She'll say she doesn't want to eat something that I made for her. Without missing a beat, I'll just say, "Oh great. I'm starving!" I pick up the plate and start to walk away and she'll cry and say she wants it. :) Or if she won't eat something on her plate, I say, "Okay, I'll eat it" and I get a spoon and start reaching for it. She immediately starts to eat it. Works like a charm. :)

The other one couldn't care less!! Sometimes I'll put food in front of her and she won't even take one bite. She'll just say, "I'm all done, Mommy." I could clear her plate and she'll leave the table (or sit there until we are finished if I tell her she has to)...she doesn't care that she didn't eat. The next morning, she eats enough to feed a football team though. She just doesn't care.

My boss (he is in his 50s and has a college-aged daughter) told me to just keep serving food she won't try. She'll eventually eat something. For instance, serve steak and baked potatoes for dinner (she won't taste either one), then serve eggs and oatmeal for breakfast (she won't taste those either), then a burger for lunch (she stopped eating those about 8 months ago)....he said she'll have to eat something. He said is daughter would never eat hambugers until they went someplace once that only served hamburgers. She was starving so she ate one...and continued to eat them since.

Your comment was interesting: "one rule, what you take you must eat and seconds are allowed if each thing is tasted". I never thought of that!!

The doctor said to just make sure there is always at least one thing on their plates that they like. My concern with that is that my daughter won't feel the need to try anything if there is always something she likes. If I serve pasta, chicken and broccoli for dinner, my daughter will eat the pasta and broccoli and ignore the chicken. She'll keep eating seconds of the pasta and broccoli until she is full. So how will she ever develop a taste for "new things" if she won't taste them and she has the option to fill up on foods that she likes?! I love your idea!

So if I give her one serving of each thing and then she eats the ones she likes and refuses to taste the meat (or whatever), I'll tell her she has to try the one thing before she has seconds of the others. But what do you think I should do if she cries repeatedly at the table and refuses to try it? Should I end the meal and ask her to leave the table (rather than allow her to make the meal unpleasant for the whole family)?

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Old 03-09-2010, 12:59 PM   #33
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I agree. Packaged seasoning is okay when time-pressed. I try to get the non-MSG kind in that case.

I'm not sure that I've ever eaten canned carrots. I think canned green beans and canned peas are the WORST. My MIL serves both of those EVERY TIME she cooks for us. Thankfully, she lives far away and only cooks for us once per year! My kids won't eat them. Last year, she said, "I thought you said your children love vegetables? I've served two that you say they like and they haven't touched them." I tried to think of a way to say "these are not vegetables" without sounding like a snob. I couldn't come up with anything.

My kids didn't know what they were. The canned variety doesn't even resemble the fresh version. Well, actually, I haven't made fresh peas for them yet. But the only non-fresh peas I will eat are Green Giant Baby Sweet Peas (boxed in a steamer package). It has to be the baby ones. I don't care for the others.

I may buy some canned carrots just to taste them!!

Can you teach me how to cook a "non-vile burssel sprout"?! I just cannot eat them. Truthfully though, I've never tried to cook fresh ones. Maybe I should try... My husband and I both didn't care for brussel sprouts growing up. We bought some frozen ones about 10 years ago, determined to give them another shot. We threw them away.

My daughters are 3 (twins). They turned 3 in December just before Christmas. They were my Christmas miracle. I brought them home from the hospital on Christmas Eve 3 years ago.
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Old 03-09-2010, 04:39 PM   #34
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If she balks at the chicken, I'd tell her to leave the table, that you are not going to let her rule every one, that you are her mother and know what is good for her, Tell her her sister has feelings as do daddy and mommy, that she is making all of you very uncomfortable and it isn't fair. And you are not going to let her do this anymore...As for breakfast the next day, ask her how she would like the chicken for breakfast..My dad did that to me one time and I had to eat it so I could go to school, believe me I never did that again, I ate!!!I'll tell you one thing I realized, my youngest son had a thing about me, germs and food. He would not touch or eat anything I made for him, he had ditching places all over...So I just handed him the bread said meats,cheeses are in the refrigerator, if he wanted tuna, his dad opened the can and little Mikey made his own lunches, supper time he was busy playing so didn't notice me cooking then DH served him we solved that one that way til he got older..Stand fast, and if she needs to eat separated from the family til we can all eat in harmony, so be it..I know it's harsh but she needs to learn how to be thoughtful of others and of you..Lots of love, your good food, a child won't starve and if all she wants one day is bananas, so be it, smile and hand her a banana
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:52 AM   #35
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BIG NEWS: She actually ate a hamburger last night! I still can't believe it.

The last time she ate a hamburger was sometime between April and May of 2009. I remember her eating them when we were on vacation in late March, but then by late spring, she would no longer eat them. Whenever we'd make them, she'd just eat the bread and leave the meat.

So last night, anticipating that warm weather will be coming soon and that burgers are a good base meal for lazy summer days, we decided to make them for dinner.

I cut a burger (whole wheat roll) into 4 quarters and gave 2 to each child. We had lots of cut up raw veggies on the side. When she finished all of the veggies on her plate, she started to disassemble the hamburger. I said, "Honey, take a bite of the whole thing. Don't take it apart." She started crying.

I told her that she had to take one bite of it. If she didn't like it, she didn't have to eat it, but I wanted her to taste it. She cried some more (just a bit, not too bad). She again attempted to remove the top portion of the roll and my husband told her not to take it apart...to eat it like a sandwich. She said she didn't want to. She had some milk and then tried again to take the bread only. He said no. So we gave her the speech about how you need to try things to see if you like them, etc. I told her that until she took a bite, she couldn't have anymore vegetables.

She likes ketchup (a lot) so I squirted a blob of it on my plate and showed her how I can dip my burger into it to get even MORE ketchup. (Not exactly 5-star-restaurant dining etiquette...I was ready for my mom to zap me with a lightning bolt from the heavens, but desperate times call for desperate measures!) Then I tried to get her to do it. She said no. Then, out of the blue, she said, "I want to try Daddy's." I honestly don't know where this came from because we've tried this tactic unsuccessfully many times before. So he gave her a bite of his and she chewed it for about 30 seconds, then started eating hers (dipping it in ketchup). We couldn't believe it. After we establish a pattern, we'll clean up the manners a bit!

I am assuming she was hungry and realized that she wasn't going to get anything else until she tried it, so she tried it, but in a way that she could partially control. And she liked it. She ended up eating the whole piece (1/4) then I gave her more veggies. She ate those. Then she ate her other (1/4). I'm still in shock!! (I think I'm going to serve hamburgers again tomorrow or Friday night before she forgets that she likes them!!)

I will follow your advice. I have nothing to lose. "Not forcing the issue" (advice of doctor and books) has just made things worse. A friend told me today that his son was a bad eater until he was 11 years old. He said "they out grow it". (But what about the poor kid who had bad nutrition for the first 11 years of his life?! Of course I didn't say that...)

What was with your son and the germs? Was it because you were a girl (girl germs)?! Interesting...
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Old 03-12-2010, 07:55 AM   #36
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Have them help with the preparation and cooking of the veggies. Kids love to help with that stuff and I have yet to see a kid not want to eat what he/she has spend time preparing.

Try buying dried veggies. We buy dried string beans from Trader Joes. They are crunchy with a little natural sweetness. We eat them like we would eat potato chips. The kids love them.

Try pureeing veggies and mixing them into sauces or make sauces from them. Serving spaghetti? Blend up some carrots or other veggies and mix the puree right into the sauce. They will be eating their veggies without even realizing it.
Great thats good . veggies is best for the children .
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Old 03-12-2010, 08:37 AM   #37
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My children only eat some vegetables but not others. My daughter hates tomatoes, onion and a lot of the green vegetables apart from broccoli. But she does eat everything she grows herself, so she'll eat chives and cress.

The one big thing I came across was that my children just don't like a lot of the vegetables cooked. They'll eat raw mushrooms, peppers, most vegetables but won't touch them when they are cooked.

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