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Old 02-24-2011, 08:30 PM   #31
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I developed an allergy to clams as a senior in high school. I still miss them.
Bummer.
At least you didn't have to move out of Mass because of clam shucking residue in the air

Can you eat other shellfish, Andy? My father's allergies started small and then spread to any shellfish. I can't remember his first reaction, but I know he was still eating some shellfish for a while.
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Bummer.
At least you didn't have to move out of Mass because of clam shucking residue in the air

Can you eat other shellfish, Andy? My father's allergies started small and then spread to any shellfish. I can't remember his first reaction, but I know he was still eating some shellfish for a while.
No other shellfish are an issue, although I haven't tried mussels.
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The difference is that with cig smoke you are not going to die if you come into contact with it. Someone with a nut allergy could very easily die if they even touch something that was in contact with a nut. I hardly think it is fair to tell those people sorry, but you must drive to Hawaii instead of fly because the guy next to you just has to eat his peanuts instead of having a little human compassion and waiting a few hours and eating something else instead.

Sorry, I do not agree that everyone should put their food away on a plane. The person with the food allergy needs to be prepared and wear a mask. By the way, I could very well "die" from my allergy to smoke. My asthma is chronic and severe. I have been exposed to products in stores/gas stations and markets and been hospitalized. Allergy to bleach, ammonia, and pine cleaners.
"Human compassion has nothing to do with it." Wear a mask. I have worn a mask at times, depending upon the environment. But, sometimes I walk into a store and have to walk directly out.
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Wearing a mask will not stop someone who has a peanut allergy from potentially dying. And human compassion has a lot to do with it. Walking into a store and flying on a plane are completely different things. Would you tell someone to their face that they can not travel to somewhere overseas because you want your snack?
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Wearing a mask will not stop someone who has a peanut allergy from potentially dying.

A mask may not be the solution. The point is the responsibility for protecting the person with the allergy lies with the person or his caregivers. Frankly, i wouldn't have it any other way if I was the allergic person. I know what I have to do and that I will do it right. No one else should bear responsibility for my condition.
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I agree, in theory, with both of you. I know a little boy with a deathly peanut allergy, and just touching them can send him to the hospital, and smelling them up close can make him very sick.

The thing with the airplane scenario is, unless the plane was totally sanitized from previous flights there could still be peanut residue, so if a person's allergies are THAT bad they may need to wear some kind of special suit. Most don't have an allergy that bad and just need to avoid actually eating peanuts or being in close proximity to peanuts. For that reason, my friends with the boy with the allergy can't eat at places like restaurants where they serve peanuts and the shells are thrown on the floor.

For a typical peanut allergy (or most allergies) the allergic person just needs to avoid eating them or being very close to them. If someone has such drastic allergies, as described above, it is up to that person (or the family if it is a child) to take extra precautions.

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I totally agree with your post. It is about personal responsibility. The airplanes are never "totally sanitized." You are lucky to have them pick up the trash on the floor and wipe down the bathrooms. Planes are dirty and we all need to be cautious and aware of that. But, masks should be worn by the peanut allergy people and any of us who have a chronic condition. (Just as parents of little babies should be prepared on flights and try as much as possible to keep the child comfortable and quiet.) I always flew with my child and I was prepared and never a problem. And, never disturbed anyone on a flight.
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I do not disagree that the responsibility is on the person with the allergy. In this case the person with the allergy did what they needed to stay safe, which was alerting the flight crew to their condition and ensuring they would be safe.

I do not thing the other passengers should be forced to put away their nut products, but I would hope that human decency would prevail and everyone would realize that their snack weighed against someone getting sick and possibly dying is an easy choice to make.
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I do not disagree that the responsibility is on the person with the allergy. In this case the person with the allergy did what they needed to stay safe, which was alerting the flight crew to their condition and ensuring they would be safe...

In this case, the person put the burden of his safety on a plane full of strangers. That's making them responsible.
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Wearing a mask will not stop someone who has a peanut allergy from potentially dying. And human compassion has a lot to do with it. Walking into a store and flying on a plane are completely different things. Would you tell someone to their face that they can not travel to somewhere overseas because you want your snack?
If a person has that severe of a peanut allergy, they should be driving in a car and not on a plane full of people. If I was on an overseas flight and asked to put my food away, along with 80 other people due to one person-I would not do it. What's next? People with allergies to apples, oranges, bread, coffee, etc. (Put them all away...) It is up the the individual or the caregiver. Period.When I walk into a gas station and they have mopped with heavy bleach or pine cleaner, I have very serious reactions. I walk directly outside. And, I do not go there again. But, in the meantime I must make a trip to the doctor or hospital. Help!..the food police are now in the skies...
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We do not know the specifics Andy. We do not know if this person was flying out of necessity or flying to go on vacation. We do not know if the person just simply mentioned to the flight crew of their allergy in case there was anything they could do or if they demanded action. We do not know that the person put any burden of safety on anyone else.

All I know is that if people are so selfish that they would need to have their snack over helping a fellow human being ensure they do not die then this is a society that is not going to last much longer, nor would I want it to.
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