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Old 10-24-2010, 11:55 AM   #31
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Hmmm, very interesting Mollyanne, I was just formulating my post when I read yours. Now I don't need to.




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"He who is without sin cast the first stone". I'm uncomfortable with the pethora of judgemental comments in this thread. I can say I have never looked in other people's carts to see what they are buying. I have never looked in someone's grocery bag, read their receipt, and cast judgement on what they are buying or why they are plump. Maybe they're buying it for a invalid friend. Maybe their stove is on the blink...or maybe their kitchen is being renovated. When I go to a grocery store I'm on a mission and I'm all about me, my family, and friends. I don't pay any attention to strangers there...why would I? Am I the only one?

I know you're laughing at my seemingly naive statements...yes, the supply of processed food is there because the demand is there, but my point is that we have no business judging strangers in a grocery store. It's arrogant. No?

Furthermore, I see improvements...in America anyway (i'm not familiar with other countries). Educational materials and mass media attention have reached many. More people know about processed foods, exercise, portion control, pyramid w/dailyrequirements, when to eat, why to eat, what to eat, etc than ever before. The awareness is there. It's the other factors that are too many to mention here...will-power, stress, physical issues, and emotional issues are at the top of the list.

Maybe they just lost 100 lbs but they're having a bad day and are feeling weak for one day. Anyone here ever had a bad day?

Some people have more of those issues than others so give'em a break.
Very well said. Thank you.....
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Old 10-24-2010, 11:56 AM   #32
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"He who is without sin cast the first stone". I'm uncomfortable with the pethora of judgemental comments in this thread. I can say I have never looked in other people's carts to see what they are buying. I have never looked in someone's grocery bag, read their receipt, and cast judgement on what they are buying or why they are plump. Maybe they're buying it for a invalid friend. Maybe their stove is on the blink...or maybe their kitchen is being renovated. When I go to a grocery store I'm on a mission and I'm all about me, my family, and friends. I don't pay any attention to strangers there...why would I? Am I the only one?

I know you're laughing at my seemingly naive statements...yes, the supply of processed food is there because the demand is there, but my point is that we have no business judging strangers in a grocery store. It's arrogant. No?

Furthermore, I see improvements...in America anyway (i'm not familiar with other countries). Educational materials and mass media attention have reached many. More people know about processed foods, exercise, portion control, pyramid w/dailyrequirements, when to eat, why to eat, what to eat, etc than ever before. The awareness is there. It's the other factors that are too many to mention here...will-power, stress, physical issues, and emotional issues are at the top of the list.

Maybe they just lost 100 lbs but they're having a bad day and are feeling weak for one day. Anyone here ever had a bad day?

Some people have more of those issues than others so give'em a break.
You took the thoughts right out of my head and stated them better than I could have done.
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Old 10-24-2010, 12:06 PM   #33
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I read somewhere that to have a healthy diet one must shop around the outside walls of the grocery store. When I think of that it really makes sense, veggies...dairy.....meats! It's the isles that get you every time!
That is mostly true. The inside isles contain Beans, Grains and our beloved Spices. For me and I suspect for most people Frozen and Canned Veggies who it is not feasible to be a slave to the grocery store. Yes it is a convenience, but I don't have the time or the inclination to grow a garden and put them up myself. I love the salt free canned veggies! I have used the tomatoes on tacos when I didn't have fresh. I could not tell the difference.It is like having fresh veggies without the time and effort. I can stock up and have my choice on hand and not have to throw something out because it will not go bad in just a few days.
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Old 10-24-2010, 12:53 PM   #34
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I just don't like the way "cooking" is going. The art of cooking from scratch is fading. I think that celebrity chefs help a bit, but they tend to hurt at the same time. When trying to make a celebrity chef recipe, it can often become very expensive, and it is just cheaper to eat processed prepared food or eat out.

I have a dear friend that obviously grew up on processed foods and continues to eat them today. She prepares food at home but it is often a combination of canned and boxed processed foods, she recently made a lasagna that was layers of beefaroni and cheese all baked together. I applaud that she takes the time to get into the kitchen to prepare a meal, but in the long term this can't be healthy.

I take notice of people's carts because I work in a grocery store. There seems to be a very noticeable divide between shoppers, those who do a majority of their shopping around the perimeter of the store (fresh products) and those shopping mostly the middle (mostly processed foods).

There can be an affordable balance, it is just that many haven't figured it out yet.

My mom was a busy woman, raising 5 children, she still cooked from scratch every night, mostly because we couldn't afford a lot of convenience foods. She did it with savvy shopping and planning.
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...thank you kayelle and suzyQ...but did you have to copy and paste my typo...LOL...pethora=plethora...when will I ever learn to proofread...i'm sure there are more
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Old 10-24-2010, 01:16 PM   #36
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...thank you kayelle and suzyQ...but did you have to copy and paste my typo...LOL...pethora=plethora...when will I ever learn to proofread...i'm sure there are more
I just thought you were lithping again.
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This is not a new discussion nor do I think it will be the last one to pop up here. It's part of what I really like about this group - the ability to express your opinion and have a discussion. That said ...

I applaud the parents who come home, cook dinner and actually sit at the table and eat with their children. I don't care if it's a made from scratch beef stew or if it came out of a can. It's the act of sitting down and sharing not only food but conversation with each other that we should be focused on.

As much as DH and I love to cook (and we're pretty good I think), there are nights when we get home at 8:00 or 8:30 and frozen pizza or mac and cheese taste pretty good. My homemade mac and cheese puts to shame the box stuff but it takes an hour versus 15 minutes. There are also cold, rainy days when canned tomato soup and a grilled cheese hit the spot. Like Mollyanne said before, we've all had bad days and needed a pick me up.

My father owns a grocery store so I'm privy to people's shopping tendencies but can honestly say I don't walk around looking into people's carts. Instead, I focus on how many people are there with their children, sharing that experience and making it a family affair - whether they shop the perimeter or the isles.

The previous statement that this has turned into a commentary on our society is correct and that is what we should be focused on. Not what people are eating together, rather the fact that more and more families are returning to the table period.
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"He who is without sin cast the first stone". I'm uncomfortable with the pethora of judgemental comments in this thread. I can say I have never looked in other people's carts to see what they are buying. I have never looked in someone's grocery bag, read their receipt, and cast judgement on what they are buying or why they are plump. Maybe they're buying it for a invalid friend. Maybe their stove is on the blink...or maybe their kitchen is being renovated. When I go to a grocery store I'm on a mission and I'm all about me, my family, and friends. I don't pay any attention to strangers there...why would I? Am I the only one?

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I don't intentionally check out other people's grocery baskets, but there isn't a lot else to do while waiting in a long line up. And, I am always interested in other human beings. I start conversations with willing people. "Oh, I love that cheese." "That bread is so yummy." "I've been curious about that ________. What's it like?"
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I agree with most of what's been said here. BUT...

We all need to get over this.

The very people we are calling lazy or stupid, etc. are sitting at home wondering why idiots like us take the time to cook everything from scratch when there are perfectly good alternatives available. They're saying that they could cook from scratch too if they had all the time in the world but THEY have to work for a living...
Good points.

I was a bit baffled by someone calling them lazy and writing that they don't have time to cook because they work too much ;)
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A lot of people today just don't know how to cook and aren't interested in learning. My sister- in -law is like that. Now she is not a lazy person. Her house is immaculate but therein lies the problem. Cooking means added cleaning. A frozen lasagna comes in a disposable pan, and doesn't require much more than a paper plate. No muss no fuss. I guess she just feels that she has better things to do. Oh, and by the way though she is 50ish until recently she never worked outside the home. Still couldn't learn to cook. go figure.
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