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Old 08-05-2015, 10:42 PM   #51
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I have spent the last decade working in hospitals and this has been the biggest problem. Infections. Things are becoming more and more resilient to antibiotics for several reasons.

I believe you mean "resistant" not "resilient".

Reason one: Incomplete use of medication. Many people feel better before the virus is completely destroyed by the antibiotic, so they do not finish it. This leaves some of the stronger cells there and they have information about that antibiotic. They are able to evolve to be resistant to it.

Viruses are NOT treatable with antibiotics, you must be treated with anti-virals. Bacterial infections are treated with antibiotics.

Reason two, as Cooking Goddess mentions, they are overused. Why on Earth are people in their mid-20's coming to the hospital with c. diff.? The good bacteria in their intestines are wiped out by antibiotics. Pro tip: sauerkraut and other fermented foods will help this.

Know what I do? I don't wash my hands (with the exception of being visibly soiled, leaving work to go home or before/during food prep and cooking). I have an immune system. I give it what it needs to work: Food and something to practice on.

I truly hope you are washing your hands in between patients, if not...you are the cause for nosocomial infections in the hospital setting.

I've said, modern medicine has it's place, but other things need to be looked at as well. Modern medicine can cure cancer (I believe numbers here can be skewed because to be "cured" you simply have to make it five years without it coming back), but we should be asking what is the cause, not what is the cure. Stop it BEFORE it happens. And before people lose their minds on me, I know some cancer is more hereditary, but I still believe that it is all preventable, especially with a good diet.
You can look for the cause of cancer all you want, but once you have cancer...you will want a cure, how do I know this? I have had ovarian and breast cancer and it has been cured and that's all I cared about.
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Old 08-06-2015, 09:47 AM   #52
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I have spent the last decade working in hospitals and this has been the biggest problem. Infections. Things are becoming more and more resilient to antibiotics for several reasons.

Reason one: Incomplete use of medication. Many people feel better before the virus is completely destroyed by the antibiotic, so they do not finish it. This leaves some of the stronger cells there and they have information about that antibiotic. They are able to evolve to be resistant to it.

Reason two, as Cooking Goddess mentions, they are overused. Why on Earth are people in their mid-20's coming to the hospital with c. diff.? The good bacteria in their intestines are wiped out by antibiotics. Pro tip: sauerkraut and other fermented foods will help this.

Know what I do? I don't wash my hands (with the exception of being visibly soiled, leaving work to go home or before/during food prep and cooking). I have an immune system. I give it what it needs to work: Food and something to practice on.

I've said, modern medicine has it's place, but other things need to be looked at as well. Modern medicine can cure cancer (I believe numbers here can be skewed because to be "cured" you simply have to make it five years without it coming back), but we should be asking what is the cause, not what is the cure. Stop it BEFORE it happens. And before people lose their minds on me, I know some cancer is more hereditary, but I still believe that it is all preventable, especially with a good diet.
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I have spent the last decade working in hospitals and this has been the biggest problem. Infections. Things are becoming more and more resilient to antibiotics for several reasons.

I've said, modern medicine has it's place, but other things need to be looked at as well. Modern medicine can cure cancer (I believe numbers here can be skewed because to be "cured" you simply have to make it five years without it coming back), but we should be asking what is the cause, not what is the cure. Stop it BEFORE it happens. And before people lose their minds on me, I know some cancer is more hereditary, but I still believe that it is all preventable, especially with a good diet.
The numbers have changed.

Do you not consider ones inherited genes playing a part at all in cancer? Her father had the gene for her brain cancer. I do not. Could her cancer have been prevented? You tell me. It is your theory. Yes, we were both tested. Just saying.
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I have spent the last decade working in hospitals and this has been the biggest problem. Infections. Things are becoming more and more resilient to antibiotics for several reasons.

Know what I do? I don't wash my hands (with the exception of being visibly soiled, leaving work to go home or before/during food prep and cooking). .

So you work in a hospital and only wash your hands when you are leaving to go home?

And you're proud of that?
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I have spent the last decade working in hospitals.....

Know what I do? I don't wash my hands (with the exception of being visibly soiled, leaving work to go home or before/during food prep and cooking).
It'd be interesting to know what your supervisor thinks about your practices (or lack thereof) since most hospitals have hand washing protocols in place.
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It'd be interesting to know what your supervisor thinks about your practices (or lack thereof) since most hospitals have hand washing protocols in place.
No kidding. The hospitals I've been in have signs in the rooms saying that if patients or family members don't see medical staff wash their hands - there are sinks in every room - we should ask them when was the last time they did so.

Infection control is a huge priority in hospitals these days.
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No kidding. The hospitals I've been in have signs in the rooms saying that if patients or family members don't see medical staff wash their hands - there are sinks in every room - we should ask them when was the last time they did so.

Infection control is a huge priority in hospitals these days.
Yay, if this person thinks that they have built their immune system up, but there are likely people there who have very weak/compromised immune systems and poor sanitation puts their lives at risk. That's a horrific thought.
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Yay, if this person thinks that they have built their immune system up, but there are likely people there who have very weak/compromised immune systems and poor sanitation puts their lives at risk. That's a horrific thought.
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I understood this, "Know what I do? I don't wash my hands (with the exception of being visibly soiled, leaving work to go home or before/during food prep and cooking)." As meaning that he didn't wash his hands unless they looked soiled, after he leaves work. I don't see that it means he doesn't wash his hands while he is working.
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The problem is that you can spread invisible germs throughout the hospital by not washing your hands regularly. He doesn't say what he does for a living, but if he's going from patient to nurse's station to patient to supply closet, etc., he's spreading germs all over the place. People who are sick are more susceptible to infection. It's irresponsible, and probably violates policy.
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