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Old 10-06-2005, 10:01 AM   #31
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My wife was on the Adkins diet for a while (8 loooooong months). When she started I told her I would support her but then the ugly reality surfaced, No beans, No pasta, No bread, No Rice. That is pretty much my entire diet or as my wife calls my hillbillies diet. Where I was raised in the mountains of Virginia we called beans, rice, pasta and bread staples. I can not even imagine removing them from my diet. I would loose weight, because I would be starving to death. Not a big fan. Moderation is my diet.
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:04 PM   #32
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Ok, here I will play with semantics: we are all on "diets". Some of us are on good diets, some of us are on awful diets and some of us fall somewhere in between. For me, the turning point was the realization that the diet I was on (eat everything in sight) was going to kill me.



I have changed my diet. I now eat veggies, and meats and a small amount of bread, no pasta, rice once in a great while (usually with sushi) and my snacks are either sugar free Jell-O or fruit.



I think, and this is just me, that it is a mind set. Are you "on a diet" to loose weight or have you changed your intake to a healthy and controlled diet?



I avoided South Beach, Atkins, and “the Plan" and so forth because I didn't see any of them as a truly long term answer to eating healthy and living longer.



My goal is to drop from 305 pounds to 220 pounds and to maintain that for the rest of my (hopefully long) life. I am at 256 as of this morning.



To do this, I recognized that, for me, it is necessary to change ones approach to food and to eating, and no, they are not the same thing. One can eat small portions of the wrong food and damage ones health while still loosing weight.



I am trying, with the help of my Doctor and frankly this discussion group, to eat well rounded, flavorful meals.



Thanks for the support.



I have not felt this good (except for the minor head cold I have right now) in several years.



Well, to wrap this up, eat well rounded meals, that satisfy you with rich flavors and textures and eat in moderation. And get exercise!
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Old 10-07-2005, 09:33 AM   #33
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I have a problem with all the "named" diets. I think the right diet is the one that works for you, and for me, eating healthily is just that. We all know what makes us fat, fatty foods, lack of portion control, "empty foods", and endless snacking.

I've lsot over 50 pounds since January by incorporating exercise into my life, concentrating on food which is nutrient dense and useful in terms of calorie input. Yes, I have days, even weeks off stringently eating healthily, and I still have meals where I eat for pleasure and don't worry about the calories, vitamins etc. But on balance, I eat what is good for me.

My problem with Atkins is that I couldn't do it. I can't eat all that protein, I can't do with any restrictions or I just get rebellious. To me, it's all about balance, and learning to listen to your body, which for someone who was previously morbidly obese, has been the biggest challenge.
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Old 10-08-2005, 06:16 AM   #34
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The only thing good about Atkins is that it did put a lot of products on the market that are helpful for diabetics, with prominent carb markings, low carb products to supplement a meal that already has the proscribed numbers but isn't filling enough.

I'm a firm believer that every body is different, but really be careful. If you have cholesterol problems or other heart-related stuff going on, this diet becomes dangerous.

Did anyone really believe that a day consisting of steak, cheese and bacon was GOOD for them?
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Old 10-08-2005, 06:31 AM   #35
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It's interesting the number of posts that basically say, I hate Atkins, I just eat lean meats, lots of veggies, and avoid sugary treats and eat just a little bread and fruit.

Well, you've pretty much described Atkins, and every other low carb diet out there. Lean meats, fruits, veggies, avoid white sugar and white flour, or at least be very careful with them.

Atkins does not say you can suck down a half gallon of bacon grease with your morning steak. No diet does.

None of these diets eliminate carbs. Not one. The most that happens on some (Atkins and South Beach) is that you reduce your carbs significantly for two weeks, to get your body used to a new way of eating.
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:52 PM   #36
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Did anyone really believe that a day consisting of steak, cheese and bacon was GOOD for them?
Sigh...do you have the faintest idea what the Atkins Diet is? I don't mean to sound harsh, but that's not really what Atkins is about.

Anyway, if you assert it's unhealthy, please provide some evidence of it. The entire premise of Atkins is that the "Food Pyramid" as created by the FDA in the 80's is upside down and wrong. He cited reams of evidence and dozens of studies, and backs it up with case studies of hundreds of his own patients.

Would you care to compare your blood work to mine? Read the evidence before you jump to unfounded conclusions. If you have a history of heart disease, you really better look into Atkins. Low fat/high carb diets will see you dead in your grave long before a high protein/hi fat diet (especially the good fats Atkins encourages).

As the old saying goes, "It's not what we don't know that hurts us- it's all the things we know that ain't so."

I weary of constantly defending Atkins from cranks that criticize him without a shred of evidence or even a basic knowledge of the science behind it. And I'm sure that said cranks are tired of it, too. Anyone that wants info on Atkins or my personal experiences with it can PM me. Everyone that just wants to pile on, go ahead- I won't waste any more time on it.
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Old 10-09-2005, 02:00 AM   #37
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I'll repeat myself, every body is different. I, personnaly, tend to lose weight on a lower carb regimin. I have freinds who do not. I have freinds who would kill themselves eating more meat. And I agreee -- whole-heartedly, that people think low carb means no veggies. The green stuff generally is good on these diets, it's the white stuff that isn't. Now that my husband is diabetic, I pay even more attention to it all. I was trying to say, in my opinion, that Adkins is not all bad or all good. Pay attention to your own body, and DO NOT simply assume that you can live on steak and bacon. Don't take what you like out of a diet, and leave the rest behind. Mostly don't look for shortcuts. Good food is good food, and you know what it is.
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Old 10-09-2005, 05:16 AM   #38
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Sorry, Claire...I didn't mean to be rude. I work as the chef at a busy restaurant, and it was a rough weekend.

Yes, everyone is different. There are many ways to lose weight. My feeling is that at a certain point, say, 100 lbs obese, that any plan that will take off those pounds is better than being fat.

I don't know how many of you reading this have been more than 100 lbs overweight, but for me it was a living death sentence. I was so profoundly unhappy at 285 that I'd have risked death to lose that weight. Instead of courting death, Atkins got me into the best shape of my life.

Don't take my word for it, though. But realize, if you're morbidly obsese, your worst enemies are complacency, defeat & denial. Don't settle for being fat, don't concede that you'll never be thin, and don't pretend that you're really not all that overweight. Don't let fat rule your life- you can lose it and live like a human.

Take it from a guy who wore a 48" waist (31" in high school)- you can lose it. And it's worth (almost) whatever it takes to do so.
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Old 10-09-2005, 05:20 AM   #39
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BTW, Kyles, you rule! I like your determination and your sensible approach. Slow and steady, you have the discipline that makes success inevitable.

Some people will tell you it's a waste of time to try, but you know better. Taking control of your life feels
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If you go by the US Government recommended weights, I was more than 100 lbs overweight. I weighed 305 at the start of my new way of living and the Gov recommends 195 for a man of my basic build and height. I was over 310 at one time.

I have lost 50 pounds. I did it by reducing my intake of everything. I significantly reduced carbs, but I also reduced meats and fats.

It is a simple equation: use more than you consume and you WILL loose weight. There is NO alternative. If you consume 2500 calories a day and burn 2000, you gain weight. If you burn 2500 calories a day, and consume 2000, you lose weight.

What ever helps you do that is good as far as I am concerned. Fact of the mater is that recent studies have shown that the Atkins plan is safe and effective. Fact of the mater is also that Dr. Atkins was not "Fat" when he died. He had however put on water weight because of steroids he was on to treat a medical condition.

I am following a type II diabetes diet because I am at extreme risk of developing diabetes. My Doctor, after a thorough medical exam, put me on this diet. It is working for me and for one reason only: I AM FOLLOWING IT.

Rob, congrats on the weight loss. Kyles, you know you are my hero.

I too am fitting in clothes I long forgot I had. It is a great feeling.

To sum: talk to your doctor (NEVER START A WEIGHT LOSS PROGRAM WITHOUT TALKING TO A DOCTOR). Find the plan that you can live with. FOLLOW IT.
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