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Old 12-02-2016, 10:50 AM   #1
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Whole 30 Diet?

Has anyone tried the Whole 30 diet? I have a friend who has just started it. She expects to lose at least 30 pounds in a month! Really? This sounds a little strange to me. I've read the diet. It centers around whole foods (that's good!) -- no preservatives, additives. It also doesn't allow any kinds of breads (☹️) pasta, rice, sugar (real or artificial), or dairy. It claims to be a detox diet, but I can't believe that anyone can lose that much weight in a month. Is this just another "gimmick" diet or does it really work?

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Old 12-02-2016, 11:11 AM   #2
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Has anyone tried the Whole 30 diet? I have a friend who has just started it. She expects to lose at least 30 pounds in a month! Really? This sounds a little strange to me. I've read the diet. It centers around whole foods (that's good!) -- no preservatives, additives. It also doesn't allow any kinds of breads (☹️) pasta, rice, sugar (real or artificial), or dairy. It claims to be a detox diet, but I can't believe that anyone can lose that much weight in a month. Is this just another "gimmick" diet or does it really work?
It's a gimmick. First of all, it's not healthy to lose more than a pound or two a week. Unless your body is contaminated with heavy metals, or you have liver and/or kidney disease, you don't need a "detox" diet. Your liver and kidneys detoxify your body just fine all by themselves.

Some people have found success losing weight by eating a low-carb diet, but it's very difficult to get enough calcium when avoiding dairy. There is calcium in some plant foods, but it's often in a form that is not easily absorbed.

The best advice I've seen for a sensible diet - which admittedly I don't follow, but it's a personal choice - is to eliminate flour and sugar. That does mean no breads or pasta, but you can have rice and potatoes. Many people have a hard time giving up breads and pasta, though Most nutrition professionals advise a varied diet with mostly whole foods and limited amounts of refined carbs. Hope this helps.
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Old 12-02-2016, 11:19 AM   #3
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It's a gimmick. First of all, it's not healthy to lose more than a pound or two a week. Unless your body is contaminated with heavy metals, or you have liver and/or kidney disease, you don't need a "detox" diet. Your liver and kidneys detoxify your body just fine all by themselves.

Some people have found success losing weight by eating a low-carb diet, but it's very difficult to get enough calcium when avoiding dairy. There is calcium in some plant foods, but it's often in a form that is not easily absorbed.

The best advice I've seen for a sensible diet - which admittedly I don't follow, but it's a personal choice - is to eliminate flour and sugar. That does mean no breads or pasta, but you can have rice and potatoes. Many people have a hard time giving up breads and pasta, though Most nutrition professionals advise a varied diet with mostly whole foods and limited amounts of refined carbs. Hope this helps.
+1, I agree whole-heart-edly.
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Actually, they did a study, if you have eaten a diet full of junk food, food with lots of preservatives, none natural food coloring and non natural flavourings and do this, you will loose weight.

HOW EVER, it mostly water weight and this will cause a whole host of other problems in the long run. Did you know that a lot of people who was on biggest looser today has problem with their metabolic rate? Crash diets, crash your system, it isnt a good idea to use them.

And Got Garlic is totaly right with the detox part, that is a gimmick.

When it comes to removing flour, yes white flour in mass amounts isnt good, nor is sugar. Mass produced white bread with preservatives isnt a good idea. But proper rye bread or pumpernickel is better for you, it even contain minerals . Just avoid crushed flax seeds and you be fine.
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Old 12-02-2016, 11:50 AM   #5
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If she wants to lose 30 Lbs quick heart bypass surgery would do it.

Either one is a hard core way to go.
Wouldn't want anyone to go through that.
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Actually, they did a study, if you have eaten a diet full of junk food, food with lots of preservatives, none natural food coloring and non natural flavourings and do this, you will loose weight.

HOW EVER, it mostly water weight and this will cause a whole host of other problems in the long run. Did you know that a lot of people who was on biggest looser today has problem with their metabolic rate? Crash diets, crash your system, it isnt a good idea to use them.
I wasn't saying people wouldn't lose weight on this diet - just that it's not a healthy way to do it. As you say, it can cause metabolic and other problems down the road.
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But that is scary thing some people are so bloated and carry so much liquid that these diets " work" which is a false positive. The they brag to all their friends about it and then three month later they are " fat" again.

I live with metabolic problem, it not fun, my body is like a mum with a teenager, mum fills the cupboards and the teenager screams there nothing to eat and mum restock again again without anything being used.

Before going on diet.
1. Check how, why, what you eat. If these three isnt fixed they will haunt you.
2. Go to the doctor, there can be medical reason, some disease makes you look fat, but you arent, you cant diet this away.
3. Check how much you move. Can you find a healthy level you can keep for the rest of your life.
4. Think.
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What's wrong with flax seeds.
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Old 12-02-2016, 02:15 PM   #9
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Nothing until you crush them or eat too much. They contain, well in lamers talk cyanide.

And when crushed much easier for the body to convert the cyanogenic glycoside to hydrogen cyanide. And that cause liver damages among other things.

Crushed flaxseeds have been pulled from shelf here in Sweden, just one company refuses because people dont stick to the low safe dose and also they found out that the amount of cyanogenic gylcoside varies due to where the plant has grown.

The study is in Swedish, so no link and trust me, we tried to used google translate and nope, Swedish a very context sensitive language.

For example. Jag ska raka vägen till dig = I am going straight home to you
Jag ska raka vägen till dig om den är hårig = I'm going to shave the road for you, if it is hairy.
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But that is scary thing some people are so bloated and carry so much liquid that these diets " work" which is a false positive. The they brag to all their friends about it and then three month later they are " fat" again.
I realize that. Why do you sound like you're arguing with me when we're saying the same thing?
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