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Old 09-03-2013, 10:18 AM   #1611
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Gives one lots of points to ponder.
I found it very interesting that lab animals with strictly controlled diets weigh more than their earlier counterparts.
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Old 09-03-2013, 11:23 AM   #1612
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I found it very interesting that lab animals with strictly controlled diets weigh more than their earlier counterparts.

I think that's because the animals left to their own resources have to forage for their food, and eat because they are hungry. The lab animals are used to being given the food, so they eat it because it's there. Just like I do. LOL
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Old 09-03-2013, 11:52 AM   #1613
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I think that's because the animals left to their own resources have to forage for their food, and eat because they are hungry. The lab animals are used to being given the food, so they eat it because it's there. Just like I do. LOL
But, the lab animals are getting the same amounts of the same kinds of food and over decades, they are getting heavier.
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:26 PM   #1614
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I don't know about the formulas for the food remaining the same over decades. If the mix in the food has changed, that could be why the animals have gained weight--they aren't processing the food the same, etc. Also, what type of conditions are they in--has the environment changed so that they don't have as much room to move around? If they are getting grains, have those been significantly altered to increase the caloric amount? All sorts of unanswered questions one could raise. We know that humans eat more processed foods that contain more junk.
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:31 PM   #1615
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I don't know about the formulas for the food remaining the same over decades. If the mix in the food has changed, that could be why the animals have gained weight--they aren't processing the food the same, etc. Also, what type of conditions are they in--has the environment changed so that they don't have as much room to move around? If they are getting grains, have those been significantly altered to increase the caloric amount? All sorts of unanswered questions one could raise. We know that humans eat more processed foods that contain more junk.
It seems to me that medical researchers would have taken those questions into consideration.
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:47 PM   #1616
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I don't know about the formulas for the food remaining the same over decades. If the mix in the food has changed, that could be why the animals have gained weight--they aren't processing the food the same, etc. Also, what type of conditions are they in--has the environment changed so that they don't have as much room to move around? If they are getting grains, have those been significantly altered to increase the caloric amount? All sorts of unanswered questions one could raise. We know that humans eat more processed foods that contain more junk.
You are right, some things may have changed. I guess the point I was making was that they were always in a controlled environment where they didn't have to forage, just had their food given to them.

Maybe some of the problem is caused by changes in the grains they are eating and that we are eating. Or other foods. Or the type of lighting.

More evidence that it isn't an individual problem.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:51 PM   #1617
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Happy to say I only gained 1 Lb over labor day weekend. Aqua chi for 45 mn & water jogging for 15 mn tonight!
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Old 09-06-2013, 01:58 AM   #1618
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I celebrated my 15 pound weight loss with a dish of vanilla ice cream. Back to it tomorrow or Friday...
Belated congrats on that, PF. I was busy eating a bowl of vanilla ice cream with butterscotch topping to help you celebrate!
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Belated congrats on that, PF. I was busy eating a bowl of vanilla ice cream with butterscotch topping to help you celebrate!

Is it too late to celebrate? I could go for some ice cream!
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I am. And I find it difficult to eat right. First of all I rarely want to eat breakfast. I'm just not hungry. But I stay up late at night and thats when I want to snack.
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