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Old 03-19-2014, 11:33 PM   #2011
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That's because muscle weighs more than fat!!!!!!!

Hey Everyone!!!! SB is making muscles!!!!
That sure beats making fat!!!
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Old 03-20-2014, 02:07 AM   #2012
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You both know that it is the carbs that put the weight on and it will be the lack of them that will take the weight off. Just step up your protein and you won't want the carbs so much.
Interesting that you mention this today just because of a segment I saw on Rachael Ray's show today. Wait a couple days and I'd probably forgotten it. Identical twin brothers, both of whom are physicians, did a little experiment. The are equally healthy and active at the start of the month. One ate almost no fat, the other avoided sugars. The twin on the no-carb diet actually performed below the level of his twin both in physical activity and mental challenges. They both lost about the same amount of weight but the one who avoided carbs lost weight due to loss of muscle and was closer to being diabetic. (Emphasis mine.) If you want to read an article about this experiment you can find it here: Twin doctors diet experiment: One gave up sugar, one gave up fat - NY Daily News

Just one more proof of the saying "all things in moderation". Like bakechef said, calories in/calories out. If you eat less than you use, voila! weight loss.
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Old 03-20-2014, 07:23 AM   #2013
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Interesting that you mention this today just because of a segment I saw on Rachael Ray's show today. Wait a couple days and I'd probably forgotten it. Identical twin brothers, both of whom are physicians, did a little experiment. The are equally healthy and active at the start of the month. One ate almost no fat, the other avoided sugars. The twin on the no-carb diet actually performed below the level of his twin both in physical activity and mental challenges. They both lost about the same amount of weight but the one who avoided carbs lost weight due to loss of muscle and was closer to being diabetic. (Emphasis mine.) If you want to read an article about this experiment you can find it here: Twin doctors diet experiment: One gave up sugar, one gave up fat - NY Daily News

Just one more proof of the saying "all things in moderation". Like bakechef said, calories in/calories out. If you eat less than you use, voila! weight loss.
If you break down every fad diet out there, they will all have one thing in common, they are all pretty close to the same amount of calories at the end of the day.

There are lots of studies out there, but no scientific facts that contradict calories in/out. Sure there are people for whatever health reasons need to avoid certain things, but for normal, healthy people fad diets are unnecessary. Reminds me of this very opinionated co-worker that would lecture me on carbs almost every day at lunch, telling me "you aren't going to lose weight eating carbs", guess who lost 75 pounds...
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:44 AM   #2014
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I agree with the calories in vs calories out idea, but I also believe that in order to be successful you need to restrict concentrated foods of all types. As an example 3 tablespoons of maple syrup has about 40 net carbs the same as a medium size head of cabbage. I think in order to feel satisfied you need the bulk provided by some of these less concentrated foods.

The bottom line is that we all need to find a way that works for us. I think someday the medical community will wake up and begin treating different types of people in different ways instead of the one size fits all approach that seems to be used today.

The idea that all Chihuahuas are dogs, but not all dogs are Chihuahuas sort of thing.
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:48 AM   #2015
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The most sensible diet I've seen is the no-flour, no-sugar diet. Eat nothing made with flour (bread, pasta, crackers, cookies, cakes, muffins, etc.) or sugar, including that hidden in labels on processed foods. This almost forces you to eat only whole, homemade foods and gets rid of the empty calories.

That reminds me - I read this recently on Michael Ruhlman's blog:

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The “of course” moment. It didn’t come from [Michael] Pollan, but rather from a researcher he interviewed, Harry Balzer, who works for the market research behemoth NPD, and studies all kinds of eating trends.

Pollan writes: “So I asked him how, in an ideal world, Americans might begin to undo the damage that the modern diet of industrially prepared food has done to our health?”

“Easy [Balzer said]. You want Americans to eat less? I have the diet for you. It’s short, and it’s simple. Here’s my diet plan: Cook it yourself. That’s it. Eat anything you want—just as long as you’re willing to cook it yourself.”
http://ruhlman.com/2013/06/cooked-food-for-thought/
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:13 PM   #2016
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You both know that it is the carbs that put the weight on and it will be the lack of them that will take the weight off. Just step up your protein and you won't want the carbs so much.
This is the post of the day Addie! Spot on.

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Unless the laws of thermodynamics have changed, it's excess calories that cause weight gain. You can eat 100% carbs as long as they fall into your calorie range and weight loss will still happen.
Forget everything you have learned about weight loss for one day and read Dr. Atkins book. Diet Revolution.
Until I read this book and ultimately became an Atkins diet supporter, I was thinking just like you are.

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I have been staying in my calorie range, or lower, & working out 5 days sometimes 6 days a week for the past 4 weeks & the scale isn't going down at all.
This is because low calories diets do not work. It is that simple.

I have always had to watch my weight. Diets were not the answer. Science is.
Myself and several co-workers did a non-scientific trial at work one time.
The unbelievers did it the old fashioned way with calorie reduction and the others took the low carb approach.
The results proved the low carb approach worked best for the participants.
I believe/remember the low carb dieters lost more than twice the weight compared to the low calorie dieters.
We did weigh ins at the office.

This recent weight loss for me is because I cut out sugar and I cut out most bread. But I did and still am eating some pasta and drinking some beer.
Since I am not to overweight, I can just adjust my carb intake whereas one that is obese may need to address this more drastically.
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:33 PM   #2017
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I made my monthly trek to Winthrop today. I have lost two pounds again. And I sure don't know how. I have been eating a lot of food lately. Mostly proteins as being a diabetic, I avoid carbs almost always. The only thing I might contribute the loss to is that I haven't been drinking as much coffee. And I put sugar in my coffee. I am not trying to lose weight. Just to hold on to where I am at the moment. But I certainly am not complaining about the loss either. I am just curious as to why the small losses each month.
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This is the post of the day Addie! Spot on.

Forget everything you have learned about weight loss for one day and read Dr. Atkins book. Diet Revolution.
Until I read this book and ultimately became an Atkins diet supporter, I was thinking just like you are.

This is because low calories diets do not work. It is that simple.

I have always had to watch my weight. Diets were not the answer. Science is.
Myself and several co-workers did a non-scientific trial at work one time.
The unbelievers did it the old fashioned way with calorie reduction and the others took the low carb approach.
The results proved the low carb approach worked best for the participants.
I believe/remember the low carb dieters lost more than twice the weight compared to the low calorie dieters.
We did weigh ins at the office.

This recent weight loss for me is because I cut out sugar and I cut out most bread. But I did and still am eating some pasta and drinking some beer.
Since I am not to overweight, I can just adjust my carb intake whereas one that is obese may need to address this more drastically.
I have to disagree with you on this, science doesn't back this up. There are studies, but no scientific fact. Unless you have something medically wrong, calories in/calories out does work, it's scientifically proven.

With that said, do what works for you. As someone who has battled his weight all of his life, I've found that big restrictions really don't work for me in the long term.

I'm not saying that Atkins doesn't work, it does. For me and many others, severe restriction doesn't work for the long term.
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The calculation of calories in food is based on burning the food. Since this isn't how my body gets energy, I have some reservations about the actual value of counting "calories".

Note, when I say "burning the food", I mean that they actually burn it. When we are talking about a body burning calories, we aren't talking about flames.
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This recent weight loss for me is because I cut out sugar and I cut out most bread.
Cutting out sugar and bread reduces calorie intake. It's that simple
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