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Old 06-02-2009, 01:00 PM   #11
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What I am worried about is this new fat still seems to be flying under the radar. It is well accepted that partially hydrogenated fats, and trans fats should be avoided. But this new fat seems to be worse, for those of us who have cardio vascular issues, and I see nothing in the press regarding it.

I like to think I know all about the foods I eat. Vyapti, I never left the kitchen....but I am eating this stuff! A neighbor, who receives commodity foods, about one month ago gave me 2 jars of Jif peanut butter. I have eaten 1/2 of one jar....and it contains "fully hydrogenated vegetables oils". I highly suspect millions of children are eating this product, whose parents are mostly unaware of the possible health risks. I threw away the unopened jar, but I am keeping the opened jar to use as mouse bait.
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Old 06-02-2009, 01:18 PM   #12
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Katybar22, my best thoughts and prayers on the issue of cancer in the hopes it remains in the past, but it sounds like you have a good handle on things and you hit the nail squarely....eat anything in "moderation". Nutrition is important and your body knows what it needs and often let you know if you are deficient in something, but it should not control or restrict your life.

This of course does not apply to those individuals with a distinct and medically diagnosed food restriction. We are stuck in our genes and we can only hope someday they figure out how to change them. Someday I would love to change the jeans I have.
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Old 06-02-2009, 05:19 PM   #13
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I like to think I know all about the foods I eat. Vyapti, I never left the kitchen....but I am eating this stuff!
I think we (probably most at DC) are in the minority, though.

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A neighbor, who receives commodity foods, about one month ago gave me 2 jars of Jif peanut butter. I have eaten 1/2 of one jar....and it contains "fully hydrogenated vegetables oils". I highly suspect millions of children are eating this product, whose parents are mostly unaware of the possible health risks. I threw away the unopened jar, but I am keeping the opened jar to use as mouse bait.
Wow! I never even thought to check peanut butter.
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Old 06-02-2009, 05:39 PM   #14
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I think we (probably most at DC) are in the minority, though.



Wow! I never even thought to check peanut butter.
I check bread lables, peanut butter, and virtually all processed products taht I purchace. I look for healthier oils. My problem is that ofter times, the more dangerous products are hidden behind healthy sounding names, and are touted as "healthy foods".

Someone once told me that a good rule of thumb is, if they have to spend millions of dollars pointing out to your how healthy their product is, or the great pains they took to add nutrients, stay away from it. They are selling something that they are trying to get you not to notice, like trans-fat, or highly processed white flour, or some such nonsense.

So far, I've put that rule to the test and found that it is, more often than not, true.

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Old 06-02-2009, 06:22 PM   #15
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....and it contains "fully hydrogenated vegetables oils". I highly suspect millions of children are eating this product, whose parents are mostly unaware of the possible health risks.
Okay, I'll bite (into the peanut butter). What is the particular health risk of "fully hydrogenated vegatable oil". There are no trans fats in it and is much healthier than partially hydrogenated, but of course any processed foods (or water) should be consumed in a moderated and balance diet.
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Old 06-02-2009, 07:03 PM   #16
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There are no trans fats in it and is much healthier than partially hydrogenated,

Please explain how you have come to this conclusion.



Here are some direct quotes from the links I provided in post #6

A recent joint study conducted in Malaysia and at Brandeis University indicated that not only did IFs depress beneficial HDL cholesterol, it appeared to raise blood glucose levels and decrease insulin production.”

“The problem with interesterified fat for consumers is that in many ways the cure is worse than the disease. The reduction or elimination of harmful trans fat should have led to a safer fat product for general consumption. Instead, interesterified fat may be even worse than the partially-hydrogenated products it replaced. Recent studies on the effects of interesterified fat on humans revealed that interesterified fat has roughly the same negative effects on HDL/LDLcholesterol as trans fat. Interesterified fat is believed to lower levels of the good HDL cholesterol while raising the levels of bad LDL cholesterol.”

“</SPAN>Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia - A new modified fat made through a process called interesterification is shaping up to be the chief contender to substitute for the trans fats being banished from processed foods and restaurants. But researchers who compared the effects of different fats in human diets are warning that interesterified fats may be just as bad as the trans fats they are poised to replace.”


I also am annoyed at the labeling on the Jif jar. The nutrition facts are printed in red on white, creating a stark contrast and is very easy to read. The ingredients are written in black on red, making for poor contrast and making it very difficult to read the ingredients.
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Old 06-02-2009, 07:16 PM   #17
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Heart disease is the number 1 killer of people in the US. The CDC has a website with a section on heart disease. Their first recommendation of how to control heart disease is to eat lean meat prepared without saturated fat or trans fats. I have emailed them my question of how does Interesterified fat fit into their recommendations. I received a reply that it may take days to get back to me because of high traffic related to H1N1.

CDC Features - Heart Disease is the Number One Cause of Death
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I'm not sure if your worried about all your food or just the peanut butter. If it's everything, all I can say is moderation. If it's the peanut butter, make your own (it's delish).
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Old 06-02-2009, 07:24 PM   #19
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I'm not sure if your worried about all your food or just the peanut butter. If it's everything, all I can say is moderation. If it's the peanut butter, make your own (it's delish).
I raise most of the foods we eat, so I am not likely to be ingesting this substance. What worries me is this is a new product on the market that has been slipped in unnoticed.

I agree with some of your quote...I agree that whole natural foods in moderation is fine, but I don't agree that fake fats in moderation are okay, especially if we do not know the fake fats are in our foods. These fake fats have a negative effect on lab work related to cholestrol levels.

I buy natural peanut butter! All it has is nuts and salt....
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Please explain how you have come to this conclusion.

Here are some direct quotes from the links I provided in post #6

A recent joint study conducted in Malaysia and at Brandeis University indicated that not only did IFs depress beneficial HDL cholesterol, it appeared to raise blood glucose levels and decrease insulin production.”

“The problem with interesterified fat for consumers is that in many ways the cure is worse than the disease......
I don't see the phrase "fully hydrogenized vegetable oil" in any of that, only referencing a different type of processed oil. I think you might also be confusing it with "partially hydrogenized" oil which is not good for you. Fully hydrogenized is. A Google search on "Fully hydrogenized vegetable oil" will support that.

I'm sorry you have issues with certain foods and their labels but it would get more support if you did not use a shotgun approach on some things. My opinion only and not to be critical.
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