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Old 08-13-2006, 10:34 PM   #1
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Darren Stevens and his martinis

I positively love cocktails during the weekend. It's extremely rare that I have a drink during the week because it interferes with the way I sleep, making me miserable the next day at work.

However, come Friday, 6pm and cocktail hour officially begins. I remember Darren Stevens having a martini every night before dinner. I remember the store manager's wife on Miracale on 34th street looped and begging for Santy claus to come live with them. (Apparently, they always had martinis before dinner, too).

Does anyone still do that?? Have a drink (not wine) before dinner during the week? Or has that gone the way of 33cent gasoline?

And, as an aside, I'm on vacation this coming week. Lou and I are headed down the shore for 4 days...and since sleep on vacation is over rated, I'll enjoy cocktail hour all week

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Old 08-13-2006, 10:41 PM   #2
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When cooking dinner, I often will have a drink - but sometimes if my tummy is real empty, or the drink is big, it makes cooking hard!

if i am using wine in the dish, i like to have a glass while cooking

otherwise i like gin & tonic, whiskey on-the-stones, or good beer from a local brewer
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Old 08-13-2006, 10:41 PM   #3
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We have a cocktail most nights during the week and always on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights. This does not interfere with wine at the dinner table.

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Darren Stevens and his martinis?!?!? You go back a ways.
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I wonder whether the popularity of wine with dinner hasn't helped to end the pre-dinner cocktail tradition that seemed to typify a certain stratum of society for so many years.
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Old 08-13-2006, 10:48 PM   #5
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the pre-dinner cocktail tradition that seemed to typify a certain stratum of society for so many years.
i am curious to know what this means, can you please type more?
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:21 AM   #6
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When cooking dinner, I often will have a drink - but sometimes if my tummy is real empty, or the drink is big, it makes cooking hard!

if i am using wine in the dish, i like to have a glass while cooking

otherwise i like gin & tonic, whiskey on-the-stones, or good beer from a local brewer
HA! Yes yes yes...sometimes, dinner is very late because cocktail hour takes so long!
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We have a cocktail most nights during the week and always on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights. This does not interfere with wine at the dinner table.

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Darren Stevens and his martinis?!?!? You go back a ways.
haha, what can I tell you? I was a highly impressionable youth!
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:24 AM   #8
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I wonder whether the popularity of wine with dinner hasn't helped to end the pre-dinner cocktail tradition that seemed to typify a certain stratum of society for so many years.
I agree. Plus, Suzy, consider this as well. Many many families simply don't sit down to dinner together any longer, especially during the week. If you are grabbing and running, how is there time for any type of socializing, pre-dinner or otherwise?
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i am curious to know what this means, can you please type more?
You don't have to ask twice, Latka -- er, Zlatko.

For many decades in 20th century America -- that's here in the US of A -- those who considered themselves to be quite sophisticated often included the pre-dinner cocktail as one such sign. So you would always see glamorous stars in films and on TV sipping that Martini or other popular libation and enjoying chitchat with family and/or guests.

Now, that's not to say that they didn't imbibe at other times of the day and night, often to excess, but the classy scene to show was the cocktail -- and often a cigarette -- as a prelude to the evening meal.
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We have a cocktail most nights during the week and always on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights. This does not interfere with wine at the dinner table.

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Darren Stevens and his martinis?!?!? You go back a ways.
Well, there's wine -- and then there's lotsa wine. For many, many years now, my husband has been collecting, talking about, and drinking wine. He and I usually share a bottle with dinner, starting with a glass beforehand while preparing the meal (guess you could call that our "cocktail"). While that may be a reasonable amount for a person his size, I'm skating on thin ice at 5'4" and a max of 100 pounds. So no cocktails for us.

But when we dine out, which is less and less common as we get fussier and fussier about the quality of restaurant food, I do enjoy a Margarita or vodka tonic and then have less wine (supposedly) with dinner.
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