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Old 12-24-2005, 10:14 AM   #11
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Great suggestion JMediger. I do those as well and they are delicious!
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Old 12-24-2005, 12:56 PM   #12
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Wow, a discussion of martinis, real, true martinis. It seems today that anything one pours into a martini glass is termed that, a crime.

To me, and it is only my humble opinion, a martini is made with gin. The one that a person likes the best.

Depending upon my mood, I will vary the brand.

As for the vermouth, only a minimal amount at most.

I believe when the martini was introduced it was a mixture of one third vermouth to gin, or so.

Bleccchhh, a thousand times blech. I have tried it that way and found it an awful concoction.

And of course an olive, usually two. Three is too many. Putting in the olive juice is something I have tried and find the olive juice owerwhelms the drink. Two olives, nothing more, sorry.

As far as shaken vs stirred, I prefer the gin to be chilled in the fridge. No dilution at all.

Normally I am not a demanding person, no, not at all.

But when it comes to martinis, well, one must maintain ones standards.

I understand that others may disagree on this matter, fine and well.

But to me a martini is a fine gin, chilled, no dilution with ice, a drop of vermouth and two olives.

And if there is a heaven, that is the way they will serve martinis made just that way.
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Old 12-24-2005, 05:01 PM   #13
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What a delightful thread!

There are "tipsy" olives that have been cured in vermouth - yum!
I've been known to keep a spray bottle of vermouth in the fridge and one spritz is the perfect amount of vermouth. IMHO

I ordered a very dry martini ad the bartender actually waved the vermooth bottle over the glass

and if you can say See shells she sells that flawlessly you are perfectly sober!
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Old 12-25-2005, 01:18 PM   #14
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substitute a cocktail onion for the olive and you get a Gibson
or go with a twist (lemon )

or go all the way with a Sahara: = parts of gin and vodka, a drop of single malt whiskey and a twist. serve chilled straight up! takes your breath away!
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Old 12-26-2005, 09:08 AM   #15
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Martini

One thing the vodka only gave me 'lift' for short while. In the morning, I didn't feel like a had anything but when i looked at the bottle I knew I did. Strange how different drinks affect person. I never got headache from the vodka either. Is that because it was expensive vodka? Going to give these suggestions try on New Years. I will probably get to watch either Regis or Dick Clark. I like both of them. Anyone having martini with them? Just remember they are working on New Years. Somehow I don't feel sorry for them like I do people that have to do cooking all day. But that's me.
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Old 12-26-2005, 10:23 AM   #16
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Vodka Martini: Shaken or Stirred

Always stirred! This doesn't damage (tear up) the vodka.

The vodka is storred in the freezer always.

And always mix in a metal mixer, with lots of chopped ice.

Then STIR just enough to get the vodka cold. (Just about as long as it takes for you to get a cold martini glass from the freezer or from your ice chest and pour in and out the vermouth.)

Coat the glass with vermouth, then let it slide out, then add the chilled vodka.

Add whatever garnish you like.
I like a twist of lemon with mine.
(I don't like the olive becasue it kills the drink completely! It's for people who dont really enjoy the drink in it's natural state, so they kill the entire flavor to avoid it with this heavy olive juice!)

And vodka does not ever give me a headache or upset me the next day at all!
I had five (three is usually my max) the other night at home (of course) at a party with friends and just crashed. The next day I was just fine.
I of course went right to my juicer to get some good stuff back into me.

We haven't spoken of vodka made from "wheat" or from "potatos".

Vodka traditionally was made from wheat in Russia prior to the Germans taking all of the wheat crop for thier war. The Russinans had to resort to the potato. As it turns out the potato makes a better vodka!

I get a trippled filtered potato vodka called: Luksusowa and it is very delicious!
It is labeled right on top of the main label "Potato" Vodka.

There is another expecially tasty vodka named: "Tito's Handmade Vodka". Crafted from grain in an old fashioned pot still by Texas' First and Only Distillery in Austin, Texas. Filtered six times. The label says to keep in the freezer and shake once when you get it out for drinking. 80% proof!

Have fun! In moderation of course and please no driving while imparred!
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Old 12-26-2005, 10:34 AM   #17
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The vodka is storred in the freezer always.
And always mix in a metal mixer, with lots of chopped ice.
Then STIR just enough to get the vodka cold.
If your vodka is stored in the freezer then isn't the vodka already cold (as cold as the ice)?

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I don't like the olive becasue it kills the drink completely! It's for people who dont really enjoy the drink in it's natural state, so they kill the entire flavor to avoid it with this heavy olive juice!
I have to respectfully disagree with this. I love the taste of the drink in it's natural state. I also love vodka neat. I happen to love olives in my martinis and also love dirty martinis. I do not see it as covering up the taste, but simply changing it. It is akin to adding capers to pasta. I love the taste of pasta alone, but I also love the taste with capers. I do not like to limit myself. I like the drink many ways.

My friend who used to tend bar however once said to my dad when he asked her for two olives in his martini "would you like some alcohol with your salad?"
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Old 12-26-2005, 03:22 PM   #18
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In order to fix vodka martini do you mix these half and half? I just poured half of each one in glass and tastes okay. I don't care for gin so I use the vodka.
Half and half sounds a little strong to me... but, there are distilled? vodkas and different proofs and different brands... also depends on how much (if any) ice you add. To me it's a matter of taste. If it tastes good, go for it!

Re brands - Grey Goose seems to be the trend. Watching a taste test among Grey Goose lovers, when blindfolded, they didn't know the difference between a cheap brand and the goose. Go with what "you" like, gin or no gin.
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:03 PM   #19
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One thing the vodka only gave me 'lift' for short while. In the morning, I didn't feel like a had anything but when i looked at the bottle I knew I did. Strange how different drinks affect person. I never got headache from the vodka either. Is that because it was expensive vodka? Going to give these suggestions try on New Years. I will probably get to watch either Regis or Dick Clark. I like both of them. Anyone having martini with them? Just remember they are working on New Years. Somehow I don't feel sorry for them like I do people that have to do cooking all day. But that's me.

Yeppers. Usually the more filtered the vodka is (and consequently the more $$), the better you'll feel in the am.


I pour a little vermouth in the shaker with the ice, shake it a bit, drain out the vermouth. Add some Bombay Sapphire and a t of olive juice. Shake. Drain and serve with 2 olives. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.............
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:20 PM   #20
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One of my favorite lines from M.A.S.H. was when Hawkeye Pierce (Alan Alda), said that he's invented the world's driest martini: pour straight gin into a glass and drink it while looking at a picture of Antonio Benedetto Carpano, the inventor of vermouth.

LOL!

Lee

P.S. Yeah, I had to look up the name of the guy who invented vermouth.
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