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Old 09-13-2014, 11:55 PM   #61
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On occasions when the 'fridge has been full at Christmas and I've had to deal with a big bird I've put it in the boot of the car overnight prior to cooking it....
When we lived in OH, we had a more family around. Back when my parents and aunts were still alive and the kids lived at home, we would have a big holiday meal, no matter what the holiday: Christmas, Thanksgiving, New Year's - we hosted all of them when my folks were on in years. Himself and I would kid about how much trouble we'd be in if we lived down south and didn't have the convenience of our huge "walk-out cooler"...the attached garage.
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Old 09-14-2014, 02:44 PM   #62
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Steve that was hysterical.

I wouldn't eat it.

Also, boiling it doesn't necessarily make it safe.
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Old 09-14-2014, 03:02 PM   #63
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Steve left out the part where Chief Longwind writes a five paragraph reply, sort of on topic.
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Old 09-14-2014, 06:33 PM   #64
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Steve that was hysterical.

I wouldn't eat it.

Also, boiling it doesn't necessarily make it safe.
+1, depends on what kind of buggies wandered in while it was sitting out. Some, the buggies themselves won't make you sick, but their out put (toxins) will.

But, as Creative is still posting, I think she answered her own question.
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Kind of surprised that most folks here seem to condone eating food that has been left in the danger zone for at least 16 hours.
And there is no scientific basis for "constitution" having anything to do with food poisoning. If you ingest a sufficient number of pathgenic organisms or their toxins, you will get sick.
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Old 09-16-2014, 02:10 PM   #66
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Kind of surprised that most folks here seem to condone eating food that has been left in the danger zone for at least 16 hours.
And there is no scientific basis for "constitution" having anything to do with food poisoning. If you ingest a sufficient number of pathgenic organisms or their toxins, you will get sick.
Regarding one's constitution - this may have a lot to do with the immune system. For instance, if someone's immunity is quite strong, they will be less susceptible to succumbing to the local virus doing the rounds. Scientifically, this may come down to the number of white blood cells (that combat foreign invaders). A good immune system can be due to many influencing factors e.g. diet/nutrition but also the mindset. I have a hard wired positive mindset and am rarely ill. (I also take a good vit/min supplement though and eat reasonably healthy, i.e. not very processed).
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Old 09-16-2014, 02:47 PM   #67
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Kind of surprised that most folks here seem to condone eating food that has been left in the danger zone for at least 16 hours.
And there is no scientific basis for "constitution" having anything to do with food poisoning. If you ingest a sufficient number of pathgenic organisms or their toxins, you will get sick.
The climate in North America, particularly where you are, and the climate in Britain are two different issues. You would find our summers uncomfortably cold particularly at night. What is a danger zone for you is not so for us.

Anyway, putting hot food in the refrigerator is actually more dangerous that leaving it out to cool as it will raise the temperature of the other items in there.
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Old 09-16-2014, 03:09 PM   #68
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Anyway, putting hot food in the refrigerator is actually more dangerous that leaving it out to cool as it will raise the temperature of the other items in there.

That's a myth, actually.

Myth: You should not put hot food in the refrigerator.
Fact: Hot foods can be placed directly in the refrigerator. A large pot of food like soup or stew should be divided into small portions and put in shallow containers for quicker cooling in the refrigerator. If you leave food out to cool and forget about it, then toss it! Bacteria grow rapidly in the “danger zone” between 40 °F and 140 °F. Always follow the “two hour rule” for cooked foods – eat them or refrigerate them within two hours at a refrigerator temperature of 40 °F or below. And, if left out in a room or outdoors where the temperature is 90 ºF or above, food should be refrigerated or eaten within just 1 hour – or discarded.

Mythbusters: Dishing Up Food Safety Fact From Fiction - Partnership for Food Safety Education

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Old 09-16-2014, 03:17 PM   #69
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Well I survived! Sometimes using intuition takes over where strict, hard and fast rules appear too rigid - (with zero flexibility). Just a thought....i.e. just saying what I do.
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Most holiday celebrations are held at my house. My step-daughter is hyper sensitive about food sitting out. I will look around for something and here she has put it back in the refrigerator. When I was growing up, I lived in less-than-sanitary conditions. It's a wonder that I have never become ill from food borne illnesses.
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