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Old 04-20-2008, 11:48 PM   #31
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Hot tap water won't do any better job sanitizing than cold tap water. In fact, very hot water shouldn't be used if you're using bleach. Most surfactants don't work that well in cold water; thus hot water will be more effective in getting stuff clean. Although not necessarily sanitized.
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:09 AM   #32
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You can always add vinegar to the wash water. It is a natural disinfectant and it helps remove food and grease from dishes.
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:12 AM   #33
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That's the best advice yet! And if you accidentally fall in your sink and suck in a bunch of water - it'll be good for you too!
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:10 AM   #34
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The only reason we use hot water to wash dishes is because I just cant bring myself to stick my hands in cold water. But, we don't go out of our way to heat it up either, I know it will never get hot enough to sanitize and even if it did I wouldn't want to stick my hand into that either! We get it just hot enough to be comfortable, so maybe a nice warm water would be a better description there.
We don't use anti bacterial anything. The dish soap we do use has grease cutters in it, and DW has been known to add vinegar as well. I thought at first, "man, rinse those dishes cause I don't want any vinegar taste or smell left over!'. But that never happened so I don't bother her.
She even makes a lot of our household cleaners herself, saves money! People tell us we are not being safe because we don't buy fancy anti-bacterial washes and soaps and hand sanitizers all the time. But then when you ask them, they use tons of the stuff and yet their kids have all these allergies and illnesses the parents don't while my kids are healthy on every Dr. checkup. Our Dr. even remarked that the only time she has seen my 10 year old daughter in the last 8 years that she has been their Dr. is for her regular checkups and school physicals (well that and a couple of minor injuries).
I really think there is something in this theory that using all these things is putting us in danger and would love to see a long term study on the subject. Then again I would love it if they took the 'foaming' agents out of the soaps as well, they serve no purpose other than to give us visual 'proof' that the soap is there and working.
Ever seen a river where this stuff runs off into? Filled with the foam... yick. I also worry about the effect of all these chemicals on the environment. I remember growing up we had to start treating our well water because it had become undrinkable due to the enormous amount of chemicals the farmers where pumping into the soil and onto the crops. And yet, no laws passed to reduce this despite the fact that all ground water out there now has to be treated to be drinkable. Smokers even had a standing joke that water would get them long before the smoking did.
They were probably wrong, but still...
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:20 AM   #35
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I use Seventh Generation Free and Clear dish soap, it doesn't foam. It's one of the few cleaning products I actually buy. I actually have a spray bottle with 50/50 white vinegar and water and I use that clean almost everything in my house. It does smell slightly like a salad afterwards, but you get used to that and it does go away.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:25 AM   #36
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One of DW's clients recently opened a 'green' store in Oak Park and she sells a lot of Seventh Generation stuff.
And we get the same smell after DW has cleaned the house as she mixes her own cleaners as well. I don't even use store bought cleaners on the toilet. I just scrub it real good and use a mix of hers that she adds bleach to. Works fine and all the porcelain is nice and white, LOL.
I just think the foaming agents should be banned altogether...
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:32 AM   #37
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I must admit that I use a green TB cleaner by Ecover. That is the other cleaner that I buy instead of make. I'm too clutzy to clean the toilet without the special bottle that sprays under the rim. If I used something else I'd probably end up making a mess.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:33 AM   #38
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I don't have a dishwasher, so I have to wash my dishes by hand, then I let them air dry in the dish drainer. One reason I like to give mine a good hot rinse is that they seem to dry a little faster. Whether or not it is appreciably faster, I don't really know, but it works for me.

On a related note, it used to drive me nuts that James often uses cold water to wash his hands (well, it still does!). Then I realized the same thing someone else said here, that we couldn't possibly get the water hot enough to make a difference, so I let it go.

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Old 04-21-2008, 01:41 AM   #39
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I must admit that I use a green TB cleaner by Ecover. That is the other cleaner that I buy instead of make. I'm too clutzy to clean the toilet without the special bottle that sprays under the rim. If I used something else I'd probably end up making a mess.
DW took the cap off an old bottle of TB cleaner and re-filled it, that is what I use now. Otherwise getting under the rim would drive me nuts as well! She did the same with the rest of her mixes keeping the spray bottles and labeling them with a black magic marker.
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Old 04-21-2008, 07:01 AM   #40
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I wash my dishes in cold water with just some washing up liquid added.
It is OK for at home but I would not like if a restaurant did it.

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