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Old 09-16-2016, 08:06 AM   #151
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This thread really took a turn for the interesting. It's nice to hear about life from many perspectives different from my own.my I'm 30 and wife and I decided not to have kids, so it is interesting to hear about another time and different families.
Welcome to the movement! ZPG that is, even though it started back in the '60's.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:05 AM   #152
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that's what's fun about having kids......your life is upside down and you learn to adapt..........well almost......but it's not boring........`i wasn't for having kids either.....my hubby said he would help me with the kids.......hahahaha! Actually you really start to appreciate them when they hit the 30's......
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:45 AM   #153
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`katie `h........`i remember so vividly how your hubby, Buck, helped me, the Chosen ``Leader of internet idiots, post pictures.....he was so sweet and helpful and talked me through every step, my goodness he had such patience......you really are an angel and mother of 8 children......if `i may ask how many grandkids to you get to kiss? `i only have one......and she is now 13......sigh.....
Grandchildren? To date, 16, with two more due. One in February and another in March. A boy and a girl. Different families.
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Congratulations, Katie.......you're making me cry,,,,,,,Buck would have been so proud!
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Welcome to the movement! ZPG that is, even though it started back in the '60's.
Today I learned about ZPG!
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Old 09-19-2016, 02:16 AM   #156
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`i'm assuming that zpg means zero population growth without going to the internet?
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`i'm assuming that zpg means zero population growth without going to the internet?
That would be it.
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ZPG, is oki, compared to the human extinction movement.
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Old 09-19-2016, 02:52 PM   #159
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That would be it.
Just as an explanatory tangent, when I married the first time (back in the Dark Ages), I married a widower with a toddler son. That's child number one.

For whatever reason, I was told I could never have any children but through modern, at the time, fertility advances, I did have three of my own. And, now there's four.

Not terribly long after my youngest was born, my father died and left my 4 siblings, none of whom our mother wanted. Fortunately, for them, I had the desire and means to "adopt" three of them. The oldest was about to become of age, within months, so no issue. Now we're up to 7, but I made arrangements for the next oldest to live with a close family friend to enable him to complete his high school years without interruption and the chaos of a new environment, losing old friends, etc.

So, in a way, down to 6. Then, through all this and it was going on before my siblings came on the scene, Mr. Wonderful turned out to be not so wonderful and he split. Had nothing to do with the family situation. Questionable things at work (sex trafficking, drugs, money issues), etc. The list was long and he was quite skilled at keeping everything hidden. Nice kettle of fish, yes?

A couple of years pass and I meet Buck, of whom some of you have knowledge. He came with baggage, two sons. Same age, almost to the month, of two of my birth children. Like having two sets of twins. Their mother's idea of parenthood was less than stellar, so they became "ours" and now we have 8.

It was a wild ride sometimes but we were incredibly lucky in that, from the beginning, everyone got along and our "blended family" blended without any visible lines. To the extent that we'd take the children shopping, meet an acquaintance of either Buck or mine who would unknowingly comment that "x" boy looked so much like his mother (me). Not mine, but we just smiled and accepted the compliment.

All of those events were more than an education. I had less than 7 years with my first husband, but I had a fabulous 32 with Buck. His shoulders were wide and strong. They had to be with the dynamic family we'd created.

Now we return to the program already in progress.
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Katie: Giving birth doesnt give you right to call your self mother, love does. That is what a friend told me and the only wise thing my mother have said to me is It not the children fault they are here, so love them.

That is what I do, my two oldest are not bio kids, but they are mine and I love them with all my heart, as much as I love my only bio kid. Yes my youngest daughter is the knot that ties the families together and I found out after I got her, I am technically sterile. And I also had a Mr Nice who turned out to be a troll... bad one. But now I have a grumpy Scot who is perfect for me.
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