"Discover Cooking, Discuss Life."

Go Back   Discuss Cooking - Cooking Forums > General Cooking Information > General Cooking > Food Shows, News and Media
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 03-17-2009, 12:08 PM   #21
Executive Chef
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,862
What I don't care for, is his criticizing someone for their weight or the style of their hair. That doesn't have anything to do with how they can prepare a meal. I only fault him as to how much of perfectionist he is; makes him say things that are uppermost in his mind. Granted he doesn't have weight problem and he expects others to try as well. This must be part of agreement to be on the show. All I know is I would never ever want to be part of the group. Could never be considered. His expectations are too high.

I always do look forward to the show. I don't learn about cooking. Only Ramsay's way of finding the best person who can hold up under such treatment. I feel he, himself, wants to show how he got where he did! You think any other cook on tv could outdo him in his way of service?
__________________

__________________
In the Kitchen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2009, 02:10 PM   #22
Head Chef
 
GrillingFool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: usa
Posts: 2,223
Season one winner turned down the job, and the rest (aside from last year's) are all working elsewhere now, according to Wikipedia.

In my humble opinion, I think the show doesn't really pick the best chef...
It picks the chef who can best fly under Ramsay's radar and get him to like them.

Don't get me wrong; I like watching the show, I just think it is all about the "watchability" aspects, not finding him good new chefs.
__________________

__________________
GrillingFool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2009, 03:12 PM   #23
Executive Chef
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,862
Grilling Fool: I do like to hear all the different opinions on his show. Seems everyone does not feel the same. And you say, most of the winners are not working for him? After all this treatment you would think they would feel surely deserving of a good job! Thanks for information.
__________________
In the Kitchen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2009, 07:27 PM   #24
Traveling Welcome Wagon
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere, US
Posts: 15,919
I had never seen Hell's Kitchen before this season, and I had serious doubts whether I would want to. James and I watched the first show of the season, and we were hooked. I hate the language Gordon Ramsay uses, I would not be able to work with someone yelling at me like that, and I definitely hate the personal attacks about weight, etc. However, every participant in the show (maybe not the first season, but certainly this season) knew exactly what to expect with him, so it must be something they are willing to work with. Most of them get "bleeped" for language as much as Ramsay does. I have seen Ramsay's soft side show through a few times. If it didn't show through now and then, I wouldn't enjoy the show. I have enjoyed the other shows I have seen him on as well.

Barbara
__________________
Barbara L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2009, 10:53 AM   #25
Executive Chef
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,862
Barbara L: Thanks for your comments. I have been so connected to this man in more ways than one. First, his insults are similar to the ones I experienced w/my ex. I feel Chef Ramsay does it for the sole purpose of getting them prepared for what would be in their future. As I have said before, I am most certain that his life has not been easy. Had to put up w/much more than he is giving out and as you said he definitely has 'soft side' which makes me like him. My ex on other hand was 'self' centered not trying to help me.

the second reason I do like him are his standards are so very high. (Bet we could eat off his floor!) The way he rips the people when they are lax in their daily habits. I sure would not like to have him see my kitchen. I cannot keep the kitchen spotless as to how much cooking I have to do alone w/o dishwasher.

He sure respects his 'mum' and I think that is awesome. He shows his love when he can. I like the way he is so focused. I just wonder if he doesn't have to take medication for his blood pressure. (Fact, I worry about him)
Well, I have really opened my feelings. Like Ramsay, I say what I feel but maybe I try to limit my language.

Thanks again for sharing and know you will always want more.
__________________
In the Kitchen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2009, 08:54 AM   #26
Assistant Cook
 
x-termin8or's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 40
The fact is whether you like Gordon Ramsay or not, he is a great chef with a VERY good business sense. He owns loads of successful restaurants and I've seen him transform the most horrible restaurants into something truly unbelievable.

I love watching Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares because firstly i can't believe how some people run their restaurants/businesses... many of them are terribly dirty, they get rude to the customers, and so on. And secondly, i love how Ramsey has always managed to completely turn the business around and make it extremely successful. Thirdly, i like it (and find it quite funny/amusing) when a lot of the times the owners of the restaurants are too proud to admit that they are in the wrong and that they need to change.

It's a very good show, and apart from the bad language, it's very good entertainment.
__________________
x-termin8or is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2009, 10:36 AM   #27
Executive Chef
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by x-termin8or View Post
The fact is whether you like Gordon Ramsay or not, he is a great chef with a VERY good business sense. He owns loads of successful restaurants and I've seen him transform the most horrible restaurants into something truly unbelievable.

I love watching Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares because firstly i can't believe how some people run their restaurants/businesses... many of them are terribly dirty, they get rude to the customers, and so on. And secondly, i love how Ramsey has always managed to completely turn the business around and make it extremely successful. Thirdly, i like it (and find it quite funny/amusing) when a lot of the times the owners of the restaurants are too proud to admit that they are in the wrong and that they need to change.

It's a very good show, and apart from the bad language, it's very good entertainment.
ditto! did you watch Hell's Kitchen? This has me on edge till the end. And then he comes up with some kind of mind change. Like eliminating someone who isn't even nominated to leave! It's his kitchen, can do what he wants. I truly feel beyond his 'ROUGH' exterior he is definitely a sincere well meaning individual. (Have to look real hard to find it) I am just happy you like the show. Times you do learn something from the way he tells them what to do.
__________________
In the Kitchen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2009, 10:57 AM   #28
Certified Cake Maniac
 
LPBeier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: The Great "Wet" North, Surrey, BC
Posts: 18,936
I didn't get to see all of last season of Hell's kitchen, and my TV only seems to work on the food channel these days , so I caught up on it this time around (our FN shows the previous years battle). I haven't been watching the new one, but it was good to see who one in the previous group. I was actually sorry Petrozza didn't win until I learned some things about it.

I had always wondered why Gordon Ramsey would basically raffle off a $250,000 Exectutive Chef job at a brand new restaurant. When, in the first half of the final they did the signature dish challenge and the last judge was introduced as the "future boss of one of you", I had my suspicions. So once the winner was declared I googled and found out that Christina was offered a payout of $250,000 or the chance to work in the restaurant. She chose the restaurant and is now working 14 hour days with the title of Executive Chef but the job of a senior chef, supervising several stations, not just for the restaurant but the entire hotel.

I am not slamming Ramsey on this. As I said, I was suspicious of the job in the first place. From what I have read, Michael in the first year ended up taking the payout and is doing well. Heather worked for a year in the restaurant Ramsey gave her and now has her own, Brock is still in his winning job. So, it all depends on what you want. But I think I would take the money and run. $250,000 goes a fair ways for setting up your own business.

Oh, and Petrozza, he is doing pretty good for himself, coming in second. Sort of like Clay Aiken and Rueben....who?

My point is, Ramsey might be a showman (or show-off?) on TV, but the bottom line is he is a shrewd business man and restaurant and I really admire him for that. I like all his shows.
__________________
Living gluten/dairy/sugar/fat/caffiene-free and loving it!


http://beinglydia.com
LPBeier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2009, 11:18 AM   #29
Senior Cook
 
freefallin1309's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Central Fl.
Posts: 280
My wife and I watched the show religiously for the first 4 seasons, the last being the one that turned us off. I don't mind, nor would I mind his language or yelling style ... I was in the USMC and his language and yelling are calm in comparison. I can see however how most people would take offense, I would not like being insulted on my looks, it has nothing to do with how I cook. But I think he uses the insults to get under their skin and produce the desired anger ... he is looking for someone who could put up with his crap after all .

We stopped watching the show because it became the same thing every season, the only thing that ever changed were the contestants. I personally use the F word at least twice a sentence IRL, depending on present company of course, so the word does not offend me. Nor does his abusive attitude, because from personal experience, as well as my wife's ... it truly does cause the cream to rise to the top leaving the weak behind, much as Darwin's theory of evolution states in The Evolution of Man. But in my more simple words ... when the going gets tough ... the tough get going. Ramsay's pushing forces you to either get tough and prosper, or leave and seek your fortune elsewhere.

IRL, he is a nice guy, his wife and kids love him and he does actually have friends . His credentials don't stack up with most of the high end chefs of the world, he has no formal education to speak of. But he has worked for the best and has learned from the best. He is also one of the very few chefs to have received a Michelin Star and at such a young age, and only one of 3 chefs ever to hold 3 at one time. He has also owned several very lucrative restaurants and has done quite well for himself for a poor Scottish lad that came from practically nothing. Me being of Scottish ancestry with a Scottish family, and having known several Scots in my life, they're a tough breed and expect it from those around them as well. Caveat Emptor to anyone who marries a Scot :)
__________________
"A man has to believe in something ... I believe I'll have another drink."
freefallin1309 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2009, 01:23 PM   #30
Mr. Greenjeans
 
bigdaddy3k's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago Area
Posts: 1,741
I like the f word. I like the fact that he is trying to revive a lot of forgotten ingredients (see tripe). I also love the fact that his children eat what he cooks. (same episode, lamb brains and sweetbreads)

If I had the money and time he does, my children's cullinary education would be stellar. As for dropping the f bomb, the f word is the equivelent of the word bloody to us and vice versa. You will only hear him drop the b word with great rarity as it is the UK's f word.
__________________

__________________
No matter how many Bibles he swears on, when a dog tells you he's a vegetarian, he's lying.
bigdaddy3k is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Discuss Cooking on Facebook

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.