"Discover Cooking, Discuss Life."

Go Back   Discuss Cooking - Cooking Forums > Recipes & Ingredients > Chicken, Turkey & other Fowl
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 11-03-2004, 12:19 AM   #11
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,018
Hi MJ

I would like to "exorcise" the "haunting" for you a bit, if I can...

"BeerButt" is a sort of "happy allusion" to the method, that started more than ten years ago of using beer as an agent in the steaking of chicken (any suggestion of "steamed" chicken" would be much worse marketting of the method, n'est pas?)

Most of us that do this sort of thing use "steel" cans (well, at least, they are magnetic!) like Campbell's soup cans....

I really doubt on the "transfer" of "heavy metals" such as iron or aluminum to the carcass of a chicken or turkey, in such a short period of time, and, if there were such a concern, "doubtless" doctors or scientists would have been warning us off in the past ten years that I've known of this method being popularly used...

I DO sort of have to agree on the "paint" issue, as well as the "fear" of "whatever all else is smeared on the beer can" thinking, which is why I personally, never do this with a beer can...

Alzheimers is always a big fear in our family, as we lost my FIL to that second-only-to ALS dread disease, but evidence is coming out that its not just aluminum (let alone. did any of us check out our "starting" "pot" set, 30 years ago or more?)

If "chicken" ever got to 900 degrees, trust me, you will be evacuating the house, rather than eating it, in fact long before that point....and if you take a good run at it, you CAN boil water in a paper bag over an open flame, using just about th physics you describe (and never exposing paper to an ignition tempy, unless there's water on the opposite side!)

You have some VERY GOOD THOUGHTS here, that some of us (meaning ME!) neglect to pass on, in our methods and recipes, but we (including ME ) do not wnt to threaten people like you (or anyone else!) with our recipes, let alone ourselves, and "we" do in fact eat this stuff...

Anyways...

Lifter
__________________

__________________
Lifter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2004, 11:21 AM   #12
Sous Chef
 
subfuscpersona's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 562
This sounds so neat I'm almost persuaded to buy a can of beer.

However, as someone who seldom drinks beer, here's a silly question - is the can supposed just to have two little openings (like you punch in with a can opener) or are you supposed to take the entire top off?
__________________

__________________
subfuscpersona is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2004, 11:50 PM   #13
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,018
Like with that ancient tool the "can opener", I guess...or, following the follow up guidelines, using alternate fillings, with a steel soup can...

And I've not seen a beercan like that in 30 years, so I must believe you in the inexperience of beer...

Anyways, "beer" references aside, read the "safety stuff" and give this a try, its literally wonderful to the taste and texture!

LOL!

Lifter
__________________
Lifter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2006, 07:28 AM   #14
Executive Chef
 
YT2095's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Just left of Europe and down a bit.
Posts: 3,875
Send a message via MSN to YT2095
don`t worry about the altzheimers issue, it`s yet to be proven as a link between corelation and causality, the 2 are NOT the same, besides, you`ll get more alu inside you from a cup of tea than you ever will from a beer can!
the Paint issue, I`m uncertain about, I`m not sure I`de trust it personaly, but the iron based cans pre-burned are totaly harmless, as are the cast iron grilles and balti woks etc...
if anything, it`s likely to be beneficial :)
__________________
So long and Thanks for all the Fish ;)

YT2095 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2006, 08:58 AM   #15
Senior Cook
 
Sephora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 173
Cans are no longer painted like they were in the 80s and 90s. I did one of these chickens and the can was fully intact when I removed it from the chicken. I bought a great stand at WalMart to do this chicken with. It is the best and keeps the can from resting directly against the chicken.
__________________
Sephora is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2006, 01:45 PM   #16
Sous Chef
 
Harborwitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: landlocked
Posts: 516
We have those too. I've never noticed the labeling coming off - it's always still on the can. In addition beer can chicken is cooked (most often) on indirect heat - not directly over the flame. We brined our chickens last weekend in CJ's sweet tea brine and used her cinnamon spice rub. Gawd it was fantastic.

I think the main purpose of the can is to provide a source of steam and flavor. I've used fruit flavored sodas, wine, beer, herbs, juice, and pretty much anything I could shove in the can! Yummmm!

I agree; if there were a problem it would be on the evening new program!
__________________
Harborwitch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2006, 02:08 PM   #17
Master Chef
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,296
Cornish Hens

I have done this with cornish hens as well and it works great. Instead of a beer can, I use something like what a Red Bull comes in, a more slender can and put beer in it.
__________________
sattie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2006, 03:02 PM   #18
Head Chef
 
sparrowgrass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Highest point in Missouri
Posts: 1,794
The can is inside the chicken--the temp of the can itself probably wouldn't be much higher than the temp of the chicken--180 or less. The bottom of the can is exposed to the grill, but the liquid inside the can would keep the temp of the bottom of the can at 212 or less--the boiling temp of water.

I think the alzheimer/aluminum link has been debunked pretty thoroughly by real scientists--as opposed to internet "scientists".

http://www.niehs.nih.gov/external/faq/aluminum.htm
__________________
I just haven't been the same
since that house fell on my sister.
sparrowgrass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2006, 07:32 AM   #19
Senior Cook
 
SpiritWolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Townsville, Australia.
Posts: 151
Send a message via MSN to SpiritWolf Send a message via Yahoo to SpiritWolf
Sorry BangBang, but here in Aussie Land we have a very similar dish called "Drunken Chicken", BUT You put the Chicken over the can of beer, not drink it and fill it with "Apple JUICE", , that is why it is called DRUNKEN CHICKEN, but we do drink beer as we are waiting for it to cook, It has a very nice beer flavour to it. And you dont get drunk eating it, only drinking the beer that you have had before it, it is very nice, and unusual, you should try that some time.
My Regards from Aussie Land
SpiritWolf.
__________________
SpiritWolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2006, 10:36 AM   #20
Master Chef
 
Constance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Southern Illiniois
Posts: 8,175
We compromise, SpiritWolf...I drink half the beer out of the can, and leave the rest for the chicken.
__________________

__________________
We get by with a little help from our friends
Constance is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
None

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
BIG FAT Greek Garlic Chicken mish Chicken, Turkey & other Fowl 3 02-10-2005 12:19 PM
Beer Can Chicken kitchenelf Chicken, Turkey & other Fowl 0 11-01-2004 04:44 PM
Beer Can Chicken storm2k Chicken, Turkey & other Fowl 9 06-14-2004 05:32 PM
Southern Fried Chicken Chef Brian Chicken, Turkey & other Fowl 0 05-10-2002 11:26 AM


» Discuss Cooking on Facebook

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.