Making pizza dough, thin and crispy

[RPCookin]

I agree with the one rise, then punch down and shape your crust. I never worry too much about perfect roundness. Mine come in many odd shapes, but that doesn't seem to affect the eatability. I also make small pies, no more than 6 to 8 inches, so I can do 4 individual pizzas at once on my 16" square stone.

I let everyone in the group "decorate" his pie as he or she likes it, then pop them on the stone (preheated to at least 500° for 45 minutes to an hour) using a piece of parchment. The parchment makes it easier to get the raw pizza on the stone without any spills along the way.

[FoodieFanatic]

For chewy, crispy dough refrigerate the dough overnight and NEVER roll it out. Hand stretching only. Being Sicilian, I've made my share of pizza over the years from deep dish to cracker thin. All dough styles require specific amounts of yeast, flour and water. You name the dough, I have the recipe! I'd be happy to post them.

[Roll_Bones]

Originally Posted by FoodieFanatic

For chewy, crispy dough refrigerate the dough overnight and NEVER roll it out. Hand stretching only. Being Sicilian, I've made my share of pizza over the years from deep dish to cracker thin. All dough styles require specific amounts of yeast, flour and water. You name the dough, I have the recipe! I'd be happy to post them.

Okay. I need a reliable dough to make NY style pizza.
I have never had much luck making my own dough. I usually buy it from Publix. Its great BTW. But its also expensive.
So, I'm ready for your recipe or instructions. I have AP flour and yeast on hand.

[FoodieFanatic]

RB, I'll get that to you later today.

[dcSaute]

.... I have AP flour and yeast on hand.

oops. anymore I only do pizza at home. haven't bought any frozen stuff in - don't know, can't remember...

I use Jamie Oliver's recipe from here:
Basic Pizza Dough Bread Recipes | Jamie Oliver Recipes
but watch the quantity - it's sized for 4 biggie pies.
for a single crust, 165g bread flour + 115 g semolina + 148 g water

I use KA bread flour, and you can get semolina in Bob's Red Mill brand.
and for max crisp, go light on the oil.

[FoodieFanatic]

In some of my crust recipes I use no oil. Not home right now but I will post a couple different ones later.

[FoodieFanatic]

Recipe for thin crust

3/3/4 C all purpose flour
1/4 teaspoon yeast
2 teaspoons sea salt
1-1/2 c. warm TAP water

Mix dry ingredients.
Add water.
Stir just until incorporated
Shape into ball
Place in a bowl; cover tightly with plastic wrap
Leave it on the counter in a draft free area for NINE hours
Do NOT touch it!
After nine hours, uncover and cut into 3 pieces.
Form them into balls, cover with plastic wrap and refrigerate overnight
Dust the balls in flour and stretch to desired shape DO NOT ROLL OUT!
Place on a peel covered in corn meal or flour and add toppings
NOTE: I use a sheet pan. Rub it with olive oil, sprinkle with corn meal, place stretched dough in pan and add toppings. Be light with the sauce as too much will make the dough soggy.
Place in HOT 500 degree oven for 10 minutes. Thin and crispy crust.

[Chief Longwind Of The North]

We need, I think, to remember what causes the dough to rise. Yeast is a living organism. It feeds on sugars and simple starches. as it feeds, it releases both acid, and carbon dioxide into the dough. The gluten in the dough traps that gas and forms millions of little inflated balloon structures in the dough, causing it to rise. The acid, and flavor of the yeast come into play and give the dough that familiar yeast flavor. After the dough has risen one time, the flavor is developed. At that time, if the dough is hand tossed, rolled, or pushed with the finger tips, the carbon dioxide balloons pop, releasing the gas into the air. The dough becomes inflated. If left alone, the yeast will continue to feed, release more gas and acid, and the dough will again rise. But yeast is killed by heat. So, after the first rise, if the dough is deflated, shaped, and immediately place into a very hot oven, the yeast will be destroyed before leavening the dough again. The flavor is retained, and if cooked properly, then rested so that the entire crust bottom is open to the air, to allow any steam to escape, then the rustst will be thin and crispy.

I hope your pizza comes out perfect, with a perfectly crispy, thin crust.

Seeeeeeya; Chief Longwind of the North

[FoodieFanatic]

I've used this recipe many times and perfect crust every time. Lots of different methods and where you live can affect the results...humidity, altitude, temperature, etc. Just have to keep trying until you find one that works.

[Roll_Bones]

Originally Posted by dcSaute

.... I have AP flour and yeast on hand.

oops. anymore I only do pizza at home. haven't bought any frozen stuff in - don't know, can't remember...

Actually Publix makes it in the store and puts it out under refrigeration for one day, then they freeze whats left and sell it frozen.
Its very good.

Originally Posted by FoodieFanatic

Recipe for thin crust

3/3/4 C all purpose flour
1/4 teaspoon yeast
2 teaspoons sea salt
1-1/2 c. warm TAP water

Mix dry ingredients.
Add water.
Stir just until incorporated
Shape into ball
Place in a bowl; cover tightly with plastic wrap
Leave it on the counter in a draft free area for NINE hours
Do NOT touch it!
After nine hours, uncover and cut into 3 pieces.
Form them into balls, cover with plastic wrap and refrigerate overnight
Dust the balls in flour and stretch to desired shape DO NOT ROLL OUT!
Place on a peel covered in corn meal or flour and add toppings
NOTE: I use a sheet pan. Rub it with olive oil, sprinkle with corn meal, place stretched dough in pan and add toppings. Be light with the sauce as too much will make the dough soggy.
Place in HOT 500 degree oven for 10 minutes. Thin and crispy crust.

Resting 9 hours at what ambient temperature?
I live in the south. Its usually quite hot here in the summer.
Your in the Pacific NW (beautiful country BTW) and I am in a different climate. Would you still go with 9 hours?
Thanks for the recipe!

Originally Posted by FoodieFanatic

I've used this recipe many times and perfect crust every time. Lots of different methods and where you live can affect the results...humidity, altitude, temperature, etc. Just have to keep trying until you find one that works.

I guess thats my answer? If I must keep trying, it will be much easier to go to Publix.
I mean thats why I asked so i can quit trying and start doing.