"Discover Cooking, Discuss Life."

Go Back   Discuss Cooking - Cooking Forums > Recipes & Ingredients > Fish & Seafood
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 08-17-2015, 04:34 PM   #1
Sous Chef
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 511
Ancient mid-Atlanic tuna salad

this is primarily for us old geezers - if you remember eating tuna salad in the '50's-60's
altho, if you're just 12 years old and have completed a study on the topic, chime in.

today's tuna salad just does not taste the same. why that & how do I make the old stuff?

tuna fish salad has changed. now, there's typically a limited number of ingredients:

the tuna fish
the mayo and/or other white creamy stuff
diced onion
diced celery
salt
pepper

one can guild the dish with olives, chives, shallots, pimento, green/red/yellow pepper - on and on - but does any of that seriously change the taste? I have the impression it would be a minor impact - and I'm pretty sure the tuna sandwiches they fixed at my elementary school were not snobbied upscale with shallots . . .

the mayo (or other) is likely a major factor. thinking back, Hellmans (East Coaster here....) is the only name brand left standing. anyone know if Hellmans has changed a bunch over the years? everybody has a different preference - I've tried others based on posts like "I hate Brand X but Brand Y is excellent" - and been disappointed, sometimes sent to gagging . . . .

with the eat healthy and live forever craze today, most tuna is packed in water. this was not previously the case - tuna was oil packed. can anyone speak to the delicious factor of oil vs water packed tuna?
the fish itself - bunches of different descriptions. is this marketing hype or real taste differences?

albacore, yellowfin, skipjack, and tongol - what was the ancient 1950's stuff? and what did we get fed in 1950's?

.... which drags out even to the late 1960's - Philadelphia street corner deli's making tuna subs - outflippingstanding compared to today's crop.

I've read through any number of "tests" - and tried some of the recommendations - and obviously they didn't go to elementary school with me....

my lunch ladies would be in their 90's+ at this point - anyone have any clues on "mid-Atlantic" regional tuna fish preps from the period?

__________________

__________________
dcSaute is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2015, 04:45 PM   #2
Chef Extraordinaire
 
GotGarlic's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Southeastern Virginia
Posts: 16,877
My mom is in her 70s and grew up in Virginia. I'll ask her if she knows. Btw, I always make tuna salad with chopped dill pickles. I think that makes a big difference in the flavor. I'll ask her if it was made that way when she was little.
__________________

__________________
The trouble with eating Italian food is that five or six days later you're hungry again. ~ George Miller
GotGarlic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2015, 04:54 PM   #3
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Dawgluver's Avatar
Site Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 24,114
ancient mid-Atlanic tuna salad

I've said it before, those elementary school lunch ladies knew their stuff. My great aunt was a lunch lady, and one of the best cooks ever, both at home and in the cafeteria.

I think tuna salad is best made with tuna in oil. I prefer Hellmann's mayo, with sweet pickle relish.
__________________
She who dies with the most toys, wins.
Dawgluver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2015, 05:06 PM   #4
Ogress Supreme
 
PrincessFiona60's Avatar
Site Administrator
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 36,293
Chunk light tuna in vegetable oil was the norm. I remember my first taste packed in water and I was underwhelmed. Now I buy only tuna packed in olive oil as "vegetable" oil is usually canola oil and canola is inflammatory.

Our tuna salads had chopped tomatoes, capers, red bell peppers, chopped onions, celery, chopped dill pickles, chopped black or green olives and were served on lettuce. Bread on the side. Not sure if Mayo or Miracle whip was involved...Dad was always partial to Sandwich Spread...anything really as long as it did not look like Mayo.
__________________
PrincessFiona60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2015, 05:23 PM   #5
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Dawgluver's Avatar
Site Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 24,114
ancient mid-Atlanic tuna salad

Did they have canola oil in the '50s? I couldn't read then.

Am thinking it may have been generic vegetable oil, maybe corn oil? I do recall Mom using the Kraft sandwich spread.
__________________
She who dies with the most toys, wins.
Dawgluver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2015, 05:28 PM   #6
Ogress Supreme
 
PrincessFiona60's Avatar
Site Administrator
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 36,293
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgluver View Post
Did they have canola oil in the '50s? I couldn't read then.

Am thinking it may have been generic vegetable oil, maybe corn oil? I do recall Mom using the Kraft sandwich spread.
Then it was corn oil, today it is canola, cottonseed and/or soybean oils...all of which can cause inflammation (arthritis).
__________________
PrincessFiona60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2015, 05:40 PM   #7
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Dawgluver's Avatar
Site Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 24,114
Hmm. Good to know!

I remember the tuna casserole moreso than tuna salad sammies in school.

I remember seeing the gigantic industrial cans of tuna, green beans, cream of something soups. Those lunch ladies weren't only great cooks, they were weight lifters!

A friend recently came out of retirement to become a LL for a preschool. Her creations are amazing, and she's loving her new job.
__________________
She who dies with the most toys, wins.
Dawgluver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2015, 06:09 PM   #8
Sous Chef
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 511
...Then it was corn oil, today it is canola, cottonseed and/or soybean oils...all of which can cause inflammation (arthritis).

which is better than the GM corn oil growing you a third eye.
__________________
dcSaute is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2015, 06:39 PM   #9
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Dawgluver's Avatar
Site Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 24,114
DH grew up in PA. He's a bit older than I. He recalls tuna in sunflower oil back in the day. He also lived 2 blocks away from his elementary school, so went home for lunch.
__________________
She who dies with the most toys, wins.
Dawgluver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2015, 07:51 PM   #10
Chef Extraordinaire
 
taxlady's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: near Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Posts: 18,884
Send a message via Skype™ to taxlady
I don't remember ever having tuna salad sandwiches from the school cafeteria. My mum made the best tuna salad that I tasted as a kid. I still make tuna salad her way and I think it tastes the same.
__________________

__________________
May you live as long as you wish and love as long as you live.
Robert A. Heinlein
taxlady is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
salad, tuna

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Discuss Cooking on Facebook

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.