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Old 01-11-2007, 02:03 PM   #11
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Yeah, living in Kazakhstan, you make do with what you can find. Vera did say that you could use anchovies as well but all she could find was the herring which was delicious.
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:15 AM   #12
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loove pickled herring in wine sauce, love the sauce it comes in. any ideas for how to reuse the sauce--besides just drinking it which is what i usually do? can i pickle me some more onion slices, or mushrooms in this sauce? anything? use it in cooking?
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:27 AM   #13
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I think kippered herring is better suited to cooking.
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:42 AM   #14
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I'm going to chime in on this one. Pickled herring is typically not used in cooked dishes (and Janssen's Temptation typically uses sprats [Swedish anchovies]). The brine for sprats is a sweet-sour brine, not an oil based on.

I was once asked by a friend who was going to Stockholm how I ate pickled herring...off the fork, straight out of the jar. Pickled herring has been part of my life as long as I can remember. It has been a staple in my mother's fridge for as long as I can remember. It is often on salad bars at restaurants where I grew up. In high school, when a friend and I would take road trips, jars of pickled herring and baby dill pickles were our road food. I only eat it the first day the jar is opened...I can't stand it after it has sat in the fridge after it is opened. That's why I buy the small jars. Dutch rollmops are not the same as Scandinavian pickled herring. And as much as I love pickled herring, I hate matjes (sp) which is served on a bed of ice with lots of lemon. My favorite pickled herring is the one that is in aquavit with peppercorns...my least favorite is with mustard--except on dark, dense rye bread (I can't eat that one out of the jar).

However, since pickled herring is such a big part of the cold table of a smorgasbord (I try to have at least three different kinds of pickled herring on the table when I do Christmas smorgasbord) and will have at least two salads made using pickled herring and perhaps herring pate on the cold table, and Janssen's Temptation is always part of the hot table.

Scandinavians typically don't eat cooked pickled herring--probably because so many other varieties of fish are available. And, whenever I've made or had Janssen's Temptation made by a Swede, it has always had canned Swedish sprats, not pickled herring in it. But, I have seen recipes that say if you can't get the sprats, you can substitute pickled herring. If I were going to substitute herring in Janssen's Temptation, I'd probably go for smoked herring...

As for reusing the brine, you can try putting onions in it. I've never reused the brine.

I know we have some Norwegians on the list, and TaxLady can probably share some other ways of eating pickled herring, I eat it the way the Scandinavian descendents in MN eat it. My DH isn't terribly fond of it, so I have to make sure I'm going to eat almost all of it if I put it out.
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Old 05-28-2011, 11:44 AM   #15
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We used to pickle Northern when my parents lived on Lake of the Woods. I had forgotten about "Poorman's Pickled Herring." We'd do it as if it were herring--so to flavor it, we'd do that as part 2 of the process. It's been a long time since I pickled Northern...and I don't know where the recipe might be--I know I have it. If you look at the recipes on the web on how to make pickled herring from scratch, you can compare the 2nd brine with other pickle recipes...carrots come to mind, but there is a pickled herring with carrots and onions...
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Old 05-29-2011, 01:18 AM   #16
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CWS like you I was brought up with pickled herrings and smoke fish they are my favorite breakfast by a mile, smoked sprats, buckling herring,Manx kippers.
The jewel in the herring crown for me is Gaffelbiter.
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Old 05-29-2011, 12:52 PM   #17
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I'm still trying to get my head around cooking pickled herring....I don't cook pickles, and pickled herring to me is a "pickle" and yes, for breakie they are GREAT, but on their own, they are also great <g>, if you like them.
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Old 05-29-2011, 05:40 PM   #18
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pickled herring is a standard dish in Jewish homes too.
Typlical Sat. lunch used to be the herring, smoked fish, sable, potato salad, dark rye bread, pumpernickle bread, sliced tomatoes....ymmy, it's been a lonnnnnnng time....
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Old 05-29-2011, 06:43 PM   #19
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pickled herring is a standard dish in Jewish homes too.
Typlical Sat. lunch used to be the herring, smoked fish, sable, potato salad, dark rye bread, pumpernickle bread, sliced tomatoes....ymmy, it's been a lonnnnnnng time....
time to bring some of those sat. lunch favorites back to the table then, don't you think? as cw54322 reminds us, pickled herring and dill pickles come in small jars these days. good rye, pumpernickel and sourdough breads can be found in most strip mall supermarkets, and i even found a great latke potato pancake mix recently--made by streit's (since 1925.) we can revisit those good ol' days once in a while, even if it's just in a small way, even if it's just a small jar of vita herring in wine sauce....
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Old 05-29-2011, 07:05 PM   #20
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I seldom eat picked herring here in the Montreal area. Most of the stuff Ikea sells is full of weird preservatives. When I finally do find something I like it's usually very expensive. The only reasonably priced pickled herring I can find (in just about any grocery store) is Mrs. Whytes (sp?) and I hate it. It's sweet - that's just wrong.
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