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Old 01-25-2015, 10:42 AM   #21
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That's fine for you. Again, most of us here are trying to provide a realistic and reasonable answer to the poster's question, not something as silly as "if you want good fish, walk down to the ocean and shoot it."
The OP is in NH, therefore has a lot more access to fresh, whole fish. If you read what I said, you would have noticed my recommendation about whole fish. Shooting the fish, is just an option I happen to have.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:46 AM   #22
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I'm pretty sure I know what he meant. However, I live smack dab in the middle of the country. When we see salmon here, it's almost never whole, even at the "upscale" fish market where the price is double.
I would trade locations with you right now, lol You are in one of the best hunting states in the country {IMO}. The largest Buck I ever took was in Fillmore {south east, I think its the furthest town in that direction}, I have never shook when looking at an animal but when I seen them antlers pushing through brush making all kinds of noise, my bow was visibly shaking. I had to put it down take a few breaths and regroup, I knew it was going to be the best deer I ever seen, and then when I measured and it was still outside of a record animal, I remember thinking if this was in my yard back on the east coast it would make national news, and shatter every record in the books. I had to donate the mount to a local organization {that was the deal for me to get the tag} and my heart broke a bit, but it was worth it...
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:53 AM   #23
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SE Florida. I use a speargun, kinda like archery, so to speak.
I was only 1600 miles off, lol, OK I take that back I have shot a fish, with a spear gun, well no I take that back again, I have been spear gun fishing and never shot a fish... Sorry..

I am envious of you, that is some of the best fishing in the country, I sadly have to fly somewhere to really get excited about fishing, I catch bluefish and stuff like that when we go to block island or south ct, but nothing crazy..
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Old 01-26-2015, 06:56 AM   #24
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I can see that as these are considered oily/fatty fish. Even when frozen the fat can go rancid. Mako shark, as with all sharks, urinate through their flesh. That is a big reason they start to deteriorate quickly. I've heard soaking in milk (base) helps, but I won't eat shark for the above reason.

I will not buy fish fillets. If I didn't shoot it or see it whole before purchase, I won't eat it.
I would jolly well think not! Shark are protected species in many far less developed countries than the USA.
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Old 01-26-2015, 07:10 AM   #25
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I'm pretty sure I know what he meant. However, I live smack dab in the middle of the country. When we see salmon here, it's almost never whole, even at the "upscale" fish market where the price is double.
That's one of the advantages to living on what Bill Bryson called "A Small Island". Nowhere in Britain is more than 75 miles from the sea. And salmon and trout are available farmed as well as out of rivers (which is more expensive). There is fish available that's imported from the rest of the world but I try not to buy it as British fishing fleets need all the help they can get and the fish is great too.

We have a proper fishmonger in the village. He gets his fish straight off the fishing boats at Fleetwood, an hour and a half away. It's so fresh it that it lifts its head off the slab and says "Good morning" to you as you're choosing it in the shop!
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:28 PM   #26
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Well, that's great if you happen to live near the Atlantic Ocean, but for the remaining 99.9% of us who have little choice but to buy fillets, it's more realistic to judge by sight, smell, and touch. I get the impression the original poster probably doesn't have access to his own fishing boat.
Um, US Census data states over 30% of US population lives in coastal COUNTIES. So, given that it's just counties that are mentioned, you've already got way more than your 0.1% and if you count in the counties that are adjacent inland to the coastal counties within say 100 miles, you've got a heck a lot of more people. Any place that's less than a day's drive should have fresh fish at a reasonable price for an extremely large portion of the US population; plus, let's not forget about that newfangled invention, airplanes, that can bring in just about anything from anywhere same day or next day, albeit pretty pricey, depending on what/where.
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... plus, let's not forget about that newfangled invention, airplanes, that can bring in just about anything from anywhere same day or next day, albeit pretty pricey, depending on what/where.
Oh my goodness. Seriously? So you're suggesting that people who don't live near a coast should just have fresh fish overnighted to their homes whenever they have an inkling??

I don't know what your food budget is like, but that doesn't really fit into mine. But hey, why stop there? Maybe we should all just buy our own Learjet, so we can fly out there and shoot our own.
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That's fine for you. Again, most of us here are trying to provide a realistic and reasonable answer to the poster's question, not something as silly as "if you want good fish, walk down to the ocean and shoot it."
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Oh my goodness. Seriously? So you're suggesting that people who don't live near a coast should just have fresh fish overnighted to their homes whenever they have an inkling??

I don't know what your food budget is like, but that doesn't really fit into mine. But hey, why stop there? Maybe we should all just buy our own Learjet, so we can fly out there and shoot our own.
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This thread is another that has turned into the same few with 'everyone needs to do it my way because I do it better than everyone else.'

The OP bought fish on Friday. On Saturday he asked us if it would keep for 2 more days. None of the bravado about shooting fish or living on the ocean contributes to that answer.
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Oh my goodness. Seriously? So you're suggesting that people who don't live near a coast should just have fresh fish overnighted to their homes whenever they have an inkling??

I don't know what your food budget is like, but that doesn't really fit into mine. But hey, why stop there? Maybe we should all just buy our own Learjet, so we can fly out there and shoot our own.
AND you're deflecting from the main point of my post, you made an erroneous statement about 99.1% of Americans not having easy access to fresh fish, which simply is just not true. I noticed you didn't bother quoting that... or commenting on the census data.

As well, most, if not all, dedicated fish markets FLY in (or truck in depending on how close to coast they are) at least some of the products they sell at least once or twice a week (if not more), so you don't have to do it on your own (an assumption). Even close to the coastline here, our local dedicated fish markets fly in product from the West coast or Northeast coast. All you have to do is ask and they'll tell you which days and which products. And those products tend to be more pricey than locally sourced seafood. You made the leap/assumption about doing it on your own or buying a Lear jet.

And, no we don't have a huge food budget, but we buy in bulk, buy from a wholesale place, Costco, and shop the sales at the supermarket, making use of the deep freeze. Two or three times a year, we'll treat ourselves to something special (usually not seafood), even if that means having it overnighted or 2nd day, which usually adds no more than $30-35 dollars... about a tip from a dinner with wine at a very nice restaurant, which again is a rare treat since we can do better at home than a lot of restaurants.
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This thread is another that has turned into the same few with 'everyone needs to do it my way because I do it better than everyone else.'

The OP bought fish on Friday. On Saturday he asked us if it would keep for 2 more days. None of the bravado about shooting fish or living on the ocean contributes to that answer.
That's a bit unfair. I don't think that, because I say that it is MY choice not to buy fish which has been airfreighted from the other side of the world, that I should be interpreted as saying no-one else should buy it. Each to his own.
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