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Old 06-23-2016, 06:57 PM   #11
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I think everyone should eat and drink what they want, and call it what they want.

It's perfectly acceptable to examine ones diet and make changes. Sometimes the easiest way to do that is follow parameters laid out by others.

It is also perfectly acceptable to follow no parameters or define ones own.

Food is fun and it can also be nourishing. Some foods are more nourishing than others. This is also specific to the individual.

The word "clean" is a widely used and accepted term which, like many things can be taken offensively, if you choose.


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Old 06-23-2016, 08:26 PM   #12
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Carb limiting diet plans have been around a very long time, no mater what one calls them, they are the same, with a few tweaks here and there.

The term "eating clean" imo refers to eating free of as much processed foods as one can manage, along with unprocessed high carb foods like potatoes, beans and grains. For a year now, I've been trying to stay under 50g of total carbs per day. I've lost a boat load of weight and feel better than I ever have, but that's just me.
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Old 06-23-2016, 09:07 PM   #13
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Everyone's body responds differently to the same foods.
Some folks have medical issues that will make their body's
process foods differently from others, therefore having
different outcomes.
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Old 06-23-2016, 09:43 PM   #14
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Carb limiting diet plans have been around a very long time, no mater what one calls them, they are the same, with a few tweaks here and there.

The term "eating clean" imo refers to eating free of as much processed foods as one can manage, along with unprocessed high carb foods like potatoes, beans and grains. For a year now, I've been trying to stay under 50g of total carbs per day. I've lost a boat load of weight and feel better than I ever have, but that's just me.
Not just you, K. The same goes for me. If people want to scoff and call it a "weird diet fad," (as someone did on another thread today) that's fine. But limiting carbs has been, quite literally, a life saver for me. I've seen enough benefits to know that I'll never go back to the way I was eating before.

That said, I'm not totally in step with the whole paleo thing because of the way it's usually presented. But at its core the meals are not really all that different from the foods I eat, and I've been able to make a lot of paleo recipes work for me.
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Old 06-23-2016, 10:36 PM   #15
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Not just you, K. The same goes for me. If people want to scoff and call it a "weird diet fad," (as someone did on another thread today) that's fine. But limiting carbs has been, quite literally, a life saver for me. I've seen enough benefits to know that I'll never go back to the way I was eating before.

That said, I'm not totally in step with the whole paleo thing because of the way it's usually presented. But at its core the meals are not really all that different from the foods I eat, and I've been able to make a lot of paleo recipes work for me.
My point exactly Steve. The one common denominator with whatever one calls whatever low carb plan, is the ban of processed food. I don't know how anyone could call such a plan bizarre.
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Old 06-23-2016, 10:54 PM   #16
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I think everyone should eat and drink what they want, and call it what they want.

It's perfectly acceptable to examine ones diet and make changes. Sometimes the easiest way to do that is follow parameters laid out by others.

It is also perfectly acceptable to follow no parameters or define ones own.

Food is fun and it can also be nourishing. Some foods are more nourishing than others. This is also specific to the individual.

The word "clean" is a widely used and accepted term which, like many things can be taken offensively, if you choose.
I agree with a lot of that. As I said, I object when people are made to feel guilty for their choices. I also object to the idea that every person responds differently to food. Different groups of people for certain reasons, yes, but people are all human and human beings, by and large, thrive on the same types of food. I have a macro viewpoint here.

Call it what they want? No, I can't agree with that. When people use their own definitions, it leads to misunderstanding and it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion.

And sorry, but "clean eating" is not a "widely used and accepted term." It's pretty new - like, in the last decade - and just a marketing term.
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Old 06-23-2016, 10:57 PM   #17
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Carb limiting diet plans have been around a very long time, no mater what one calls them, they are the same, with a few tweaks here and there.

The term "eating clean" imo refers to eating free of as much processed foods as one can manage, along with unprocessed high carb foods like potatoes, beans and grains. For a year now, I've been trying to stay under 50g of total carbs per day. I've lost a boat load of weight and feel better than I ever have, but that's just me.
Paleo isn't just about limiting carbs. To do it "right," all your food is supposed to be organic, free-range, grass-fed, pastured, etc. In other words, too expensive and difficult to obtain and prepare for the majority of the population.
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Paleo isn't just about limiting carbs. To do it "right," all your food is supposed to be organic, free-range, grass-fed, pastured, etc. In other words, too expensive and difficult to obtain and prepare for the majority of the population.
You are right with that thought GG......as I said, there are tweaks with the whole idea of a low carb diets. It doesn't need to be so "elite" or difficult as with "Paleo". It should be a really easy lifestyle that's easy to live with.
Personally eliminating most processed and high carbohydrate foods from my diet is really very simple even when I can include carbs into the menu for my dear SousChef.
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Old 06-24-2016, 01:09 AM   #19
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Kayelle, you also can't have cheese or alcohol on the Paleo diet

Some interesting reading:

http://www.salon.com/2015/01/30/were...ing_disorders/

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org...ting-delusion/

http://thoughtcatalog.com/jennifer-r...-worth-trying/
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No alcohol? Well I'm out.
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