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Old 07-14-2006, 08:36 PM   #11
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I use salt in my saucepan if I get something really stuck and burnt - but I think that would be way to abrasive if it is non-stick. Shouldn't it just wipe off it is a non-stick pan?

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Old 07-15-2006, 06:36 AM   #12
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The burnt stuff has definitely become one with the pan. I placed the pan in the trash bin this morning. I have a parrot and also have been concerned about fumes. I believe the worst culprits are supposed to be the really inexpensive thin coated aluminum that breaks down easily. I have attached two sites that have a little information. I am weaning myself off of non-stick cookware. I am now down to one small skillet and one large pan. I try not to use them at high temps. I'm going to cast iron and stainless.

http://tuberose.com/Teflon.html http://www.ewg.org/reports/toxicteflon/es.php

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Old 07-15-2006, 01:08 PM   #13
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I must admit that I am a little confused as to what you were doing to fuse barley to a non-stick pan ... roasting dry barley, something with a wet batter, etc ... but regardless of what you were doing you definitely got the pan too hot! Non-stick cookware should never be used on a burner turned up more than MEDIUM ... and definitely should not be pre-heated empty for more than about 30-seconds. Once the surface of the pan heats up more than 450-F (some studies say 446-F) it begins to give of toxic fumes from perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA) - also known as C8. The higher the temp, the more chemical fumes are released - at least 2 are known carcinogens.

Yes - cheap thin cookware will heat faster than thicker cookware ... but that has nothing to do with the non-stick coating - it has to do with the mass of metal being heated.

Ever look at the instructions that come with non-stick cookware? Ever wonder why the instructions say to only use over MED heat and not put under the broiler, and only safe up to 450-F in the oven?

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To my knowledge no human has ever been affected.
While it is true that small birds are affected first - children and adults can have problems, too. While I haven't run across any studies that link cooking in non-stick to the illness - breathing the fumes has been documented in several studies ... the symptoms are similar to a viral flu that can last up to about 48-hours. In medical literature it is most often referred to as "Teflon Flu" - it is also known as "polymer fume fever".

Of course - cookware is not the only culprit! Things like installing new synthetic-fiber carpets, or spaying Scotchguard on something, can also expose you to some of the same type of fumes released from overheating non-stick cookware.

You can find more info if you google on teflon flu - this is a good site ... as are the sites listed by JGDean.

I, personally, don't think there is much of a health risk if you treat your non-stick with care - such as never over-heating it.
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Old 07-16-2006, 08:33 AM   #14
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I knew why The problem occurred - I just wondered if the pan was able to be saved and how. I didn't realize that Scotchguard was bad. I'll make sure to do it outside from now on. Thanks for the tip.
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Old 07-16-2006, 08:42 AM   #15
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It isn't my first time i have done it -- i have put water back in the pan with a some vinegar bring it to a boil remove it from the heat and add dish soap to it then cover it and let it soak a day. You might have to do it again. But I have Had good luck doing that, especially when my daughter started cooking. I also have started going back to cast iron pans for alot of things. season them well and you won't have any pproblems.
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Old 07-16-2006, 05:50 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by GB
I love cast iron as well. In my kitchen I have a variety of different pieces of cookware. SS, Ceramic, Cast Iron (both enameled and not) non-stick and they all get used.

What studies are you referring to VeraBlue? I would love to check them out.
I first heard of this through industry publications I'd receive at work. I did some checking myself, recently as well. Check out tuberrose.com, theaviary.com, and an article in the Washington Post from 1/25/06.

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