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Old 05-15-2016, 11:44 AM   #11
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When it comes to wine, I like what I like, and I never know until I taste it whether I'll like it or not. It can change from day to day too, like it one day and no interest at all the next.

For beer, I don't like tasteless light or mainstream beers, but I also don't like them when they are overly bitter (think IPA's). A middle of the road craft amber or blonde is my preference. Not into stout, but I've had some porters that were okay. Kinda like wine, I have to taste it to know for sure.
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Old 05-16-2016, 05:18 PM   #12
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I also don't drink wine , but only cook with it. When I taste wine, all I can think of is how I would use it to cook. I just can't mentally consider it as a beverage ( just my opinion). That being said, clearly I'm in the minority. But not only wine and beer, but even the food snobs too, who like something just because they got it at a fancy restaurant and it costs a lot. You hear them repeating something they probably read in an article or heard on some food program. I would love to give them a blind taste test and see if they could really identify what they are eating vs its cheaper counterpart, or give it the same description.

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Old 05-16-2016, 06:56 PM   #13
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We've hosted a couple of fun wine snob parties in the past. We asked guests to bring one bottle of each, a red and a white, any cost. We completely wrapped each bottle in plain paper bags and numbered them, got rid of the corks, and did a blind taste test during the evening. We ended up with like 20 bottles lined on the table, took notes and jotted down the top 3 reds and whites as the evening went on. The bottles ranged in prices from Two Buck Chucks to $50+. One guy thought the Two Buck Chuck was the best tasting.....
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Old 05-17-2016, 08:22 AM   #14
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There are snobs for everything tht you can buy..think clothing labels, shoe designers, high end anything. I find that they are going by the price of the stuff and not really the quality.
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Old 05-17-2016, 09:56 AM   #15
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There are snobs for everything tht you can buy..think clothing labels, shoe designers, high end anything. I find that they are going by the price of the stuff and not really the quality.
...or the status of a certain label.
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Old 05-17-2016, 11:23 AM   #16
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Having had a terrible alcohol poisoning from consuming insane amount of wine when I was 16, I do not like drinking wine and most of all I just do not find it that it taste good. If I do drink I drink this very, very light sweet bubbly wine from Italy. With one exception. When I was in Israel I had a dinner with then Israel's premier restaurant and wine critic. He ordered wine. Oh my gosh, that was a good wine. That was 10 years ago. Never had anything that good before or after.
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Old 05-17-2016, 11:25 AM   #17
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Preface by saying I don't drink wine... I cook with it, but I don't like the stuff. I'm weird, yes, I know.

I was at a restaurant a few months back with a group of somewhat snobbish people (friends of friends, never again!). One dude orders a $92 bottle of wine for he and his wife. It comes to the table and (he waited until everyone was watching, of course) he does the fancy "swirl-in-glass, look at it up to the light, smell and taste test." Then, he confidently says for all to hear, "Yes, I like this. Nutty and aromatic, robust yet not too aggressive."

My eyes were rolling into the back of my big bald head! I said (when everyone was listening, of course) to the waiter, "Um... how much is that bottle of wine?" He stated proudly, "$92." I sarcastically replied, "I'm sure it'll be fine."

In my mind I was thinking, "Ya, a little better than the $12 crap he buys when no-one is watching."

My question - I am just being a jerk here or do I just hate pretentious snobs?

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It sounds as though the other chap was showing off either to his lady guest (I would doubt she was his wife) or the waiter or the other customers. Sadly for him most "lady guests" (and waiters) recognise a pretentious twit when they see one (and often decline a further outing). In reality he probably wouldn't distinguish a Grand Cru Burgundy from a 5 quid bottle of plonk from Sainsbury's if they got up and spat in his eye.
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Old 05-17-2016, 11:40 AM   #18
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My question - I am just being a jerk here or do I just hate pretentious snobs?
Full disclosure: I love wine. It's my drink of choice. I make my own, and I probably have somewhere in the neighborhood of 1200 bottles (mostly stuff I've made, but a few collector bottles, too). I also judge wine at competitions.

That being said, I'm in total agreement with you. What this idiot did goes beyond being a wine snob. He falls more into the category of wine buffoon. Unless you are judging a competition, where you are fully expected to swirl, sniff, and make pronouncements on the quality of a wine, this kind of behavior only makes you look like a complete doofus. I guarantee the waiter immediately went back to the kitchen and had a good laugh at this clown's expense.

Most of the people I know who are real wine lovers don't feel the need to put on this sort of act when dining out. A simple "This tastes great" or very occasional "I think there's something a little 'off' with this bottle" to the waiter is all the commentary that's needed.
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Old 05-17-2016, 11:43 AM   #19
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I love wine but know nothing about them. Even with a cheap $20 bottle at a restaurant, if prompted by the waiter, I'll do the swirly and the taste test, and won't reject it even if it's bad.....I wouldn't even know what to say....
Why not? The wine waiter needs to know so he can alert the manager that there might be a problem with that consignment of wine. You wouldn't accept an omelette made with a bad egg or a steak which was clearly fit only for the garbage can, would you?

Any wine waiter worth his/her salt will appreciate being told that the wine is off if it's done quietly and without any showing off.

If the problem is just that you don't like the wine that is a different issue and not a reason to decline it after the taste - unless you are prepared to pay for the rejected bottle and the replacement.

Useful hint (from a friend who was a chef in one of London's most up-market hotels) - If your budget is tight never choose the second cheapest on the wine list. The wine buyer and the waiter know that many people on a tight budget will choose that one as they are embarrassed to choose the cheapest on the list. The second cheapest slot is where an unscupulous wine manager will put the rubbish they want to get rid of!
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That being said, I'm in total agreement with you. What this idiot did goes beyond being a wine snob. He falls more into the category of wine buffoon. Unless you are judging a competition, where you are fully expected to swirl, sniff, and make pronouncements on the quality of a wine, this kind of behavior only makes you look like a complete doofus. I guarantee the waiter immediately went back to the kitchen and had a good laugh at this clown's expense.

Most of the people I know who are real wine lovers don't feel the need to put on this sort of act when dining out. A simple "This tastes great" or very occasional "I think there's something a little 'off' with this bottle" to the waiter is all the commentary that's needed.
Hear, hear!
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