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Old 06-07-2010, 12:00 PM   #11
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I had a co-worker tell me that she wouldn't eat anything organic because they used animal poop for fertilizer! She said that she preferred chemicals! This is an older lady too. I asked her what she thought that they used for hundreds of years before chemicals?
Actually that's not entirely true. There are a number of other sources for organic fertilizer, including, primarily, compost from non-animal food scraps.
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:10 PM   #12
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Actually that's not entirely true. There are a number of other sources for organic fertilizer, including, primarily, compost from non-animal food scraps.
But don't you have to ensure that all the food items you add to the compost pile are also organic? Then, what if some of those scraps were fertilized with poop? That would result in non-organic, poop-fertilized compost. If you use that to fertilize plants, they could become non-organic and poop-feertilized (once removed). Oh, the horror of it all. What will become of us?
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:22 PM   #13
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Andy; if the poop is organic, then it's all Ok. You just have to make sure that all of the feed given to the animal is pesticide free, and has not had its genes manipulated. It also has to have been given no hormones or anti-biotics. Then you have organic poop. I know that I always ask questions of my butchers whether or not the feed-lot cattle they get from their suppliers is organic meat (NOT).

But seriously, organic food is simply food that's been raised or grown with the nutrients found in mother nature, rather than getting them from man-made substances. Free range chickens, fed organic, vegetarian diet isn't much different in quality compared to standard eggs. Free range chickens are also not that much happier. They still maintain a pecking order, which makes some poor chicken really hen-pecked. They have to worry about weasles, mink, fox, coyoties, and even dogs and cats, not to mention hawks, eagles, and owls.

Free range chickens which feed on the natural foods supplied by nature produce better tasting eggs, and meat due to the inclusion of insect and worm protien, and the wild plants that they eat. They also get more exercise, which causes more blood and nutrients to feed all the itty-bitty- chicken cells, adding flavor and nutritional value to the meat and eggs.

If a chicken is truly free range, you can bet it's not vegetarian. I've seen a bunch of hens pounce on the occasional lone rat or mouse and consume it like a pack of parahnas, litteraly. That animal didn't last for much more than two or three seconds once the hens saw it. And the roosters that attacked my children, well they made pretty good chicken stews.

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Old 06-07-2010, 12:24 PM   #14
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Andy; if the poop is organic, then it's all Ok. You just have to make sure that all of the feed given to the animal is pesticide free, and has not had its genes manipulated. It also has to have been given no hormones or anti-biotics. Then you have organic poop. I know that I always ask questions of my butchers whether or not the feed-lot cattle they get from their suppliers is organic meat (NOT).

But seriously, organic food is simply food that's been raised or grown with the nutrients found in mother nature, rather than getting them from man-made substances. Free range chickens, fed organic, vegetarian diet isn't much different in quality compared to standard eggs. Free range chickens are also not that much happier. They still maintain a pecking order, which makes some poor chicken really hen-pecked. They have to worry about weasels, mink, fox, coyotes, and even dogs and cats, not to mention hawks, eagles, and owls.

Free range chickens which feed on the natural foods supplied by nature produce better tasting eggs, and meat due to the inclusion of insect and worm protein, and the wild plants that they eat. They also get more exercise, which causes more blood and nutrients to feed all the itty-bitty- chicken cells, adding flavor and nutritional value to the meat and eggs.

If a chicken is truly free range, you can bet it's not vegetarian. I've seen a bunch of hens pounce on the occasional lone rat or mouse and consume it like a pack of pirahnas, literally. That animal didn't last for much more than two or three seconds once the hens saw it. And the roosters that attacked my children, well they made pretty good chicken stews.

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Old 06-07-2010, 02:05 PM   #15
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But don't you have to ensure that all the food items you add to the compost pile are also organic?
I don't think so. When I was composting and taking my scraps to the drop-off box at the Union Square Greenmarket, they never questioned whether the scraps were organic.
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:42 PM   #16
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how can one tell if the chicken is happy? i love eggs and i really don't feel responsible for the chicken's emotional well being. lol
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