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Old 01-13-2011, 01:51 PM   #11
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When I make pork BBQ I cook the shoulder (one of these days I am doing a whole shoulder) whether it is the picnic or butt at about 215-225F. I use hickory chunks for the first 6 hours of cooking then just charcoal. My rub contains (let's see how much I can do from memory) salt, brown sugar, paprika, dry mustard. My mop sauce is just cider vinegar with onions and jalapenos in it. The finish sauce adds sugar.

I serve with Carolina mustard.

I love some pork BBQ and it goes on a plate, not a bun.

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Old 01-13-2011, 02:27 PM   #12
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I cook my pulled pork (butt -- which is the shoulder) on the charcoal grill over indirect heat for an hour or so and then put into a LC french oven for 3 or 4 more hours with a some mopping sauce.

When done I shred the meat, degrease the sauce/juices and mix the two together

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Old 01-13-2011, 02:32 PM   #13
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I always use cheap buns, GW. I like them to get on the soggy side and a good bun is well, too good

I use turbinado sugar in my rubs, Frank. It doesn't clump like brown sugar does so I can make a batch ahead of time and keep it in a shaker bottle.
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Old 01-15-2011, 12:24 AM   #14
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Thank you for all the replies, I thought Butt was the shoulder but I was confused by your other use of Butt.
Boned Pork shoulder is very cheap over hear, I presume from the recipes that I will have to skin it?
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Old 01-15-2011, 05:41 AM   #15
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Pork butt doesn't typically come with the skin on it over here, just the fat cap. And even that is trimmed pretty well.
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Old 01-15-2011, 06:46 AM   #16
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Goodweed, I like your idea of smoking after shredding. Bet you could put a shallow pan of baked beans in there, too.
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Old 01-15-2011, 11:12 AM   #17
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'round here, we cook it low and slow on what we call a pig cooker. We seldom use a rub, but we mop it with a sauce that is simply apple cider vinegar, mixed with just enough sugar to take the hard bite off the vinegar and some crushed dried cayenne peppers (add some salt if you think you need it). Mop it every hour or so, or whenever you turn the butt over.
We often cook 8-10 boston butts till they are falling off the bone, chop it into what we call barbeque, here in eastern NC. Call the family and neighbors (everyone will bring a side dish), and while we wait for the pork, we will break out the banjos and guitars and your beverage of choice....Next thing you know there is party going' on!!!
This is what is known in these parts as a pig pickin', (we call it that when we do a whole pig, but shucks, pig is pig, I reckon.)
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Old 01-15-2011, 11:14 AM   #18
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putting in in a slow cooker overnight will do it justice
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Old 01-15-2011, 11:14 AM   #19
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And don't forget to add some pepper :)
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Old 01-15-2011, 11:27 AM   #20
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Hi, this is my first post here. Just discovered this site.

OK, you've gotten some advice on how to cook a pork shoulder, mostly from an American perspective.

But you said you want a Cuban style sandwich, which means what you actually want to cook is the pork shoulder of Cuba, Puerto Rico and Santo Domingo. That dish is called in Spanish, "pernil." It is very different from American style roast pork, although it uses the same cut of meat.

My SO is Puerto Rican. Not only that, but she grew up in a restaurant that her mother owned. Not only that, but she has spent the last 10 years trying to perfect her pernil even more!

So this is the recipe for Cuban/Puerto Rican/Dominican roast pork shoulder. Please don't be shocked by the excesses of flavor I'm about to describe.

The main thing to remember about C/PR/D pernil is that it is garlicy. Take one to two heads of garlic depending on how much you like garlic. Peel and chop the garlic finely. You can also add a small finely chopped onion or half onion.

To this add about 1 tbs of fresh ground black pepper, 1 tbs kosher salt, 1 tbs garlic powder (or if you have a local Spanish grocery, Goya's Adobo, which is basically garlic powder with extra spices). 1 Tsp of finely ground cumin is also good to add, depending on your taste. Mix this stuff together with olive oil to make a paste.

Now it's time to get medieval on your pork shoulder.

Take a sharp pointy knife and start stabbing the pork shoulder. You want to make holes that you are going to stuff with the paste. Some holes go straight through the skin, some under it, deep into the flesh.

Many non-hispanic cooks think that if you stab the flesh, the juices will run out. This may be true for other cuts, but won't happen with this one, which is so fatty that it's hard to make it come out dry if you cook it slowly.

At this point, if you like a less porky, "cleaner" flavor, you can rinse the pork shoulder in fresh squeezed lemon juice. Pour off the lemon juice when done; you don't want a lemony pork shoulder, just want the acid in the lemon to give the pork a clean flavor.

Now start stuffing the garlic/olive oil paste into the "wounds" of the pork shoulder, really deep into the flesh.

As with the American recipes, you now cook it low and slow, skin side up. 250 at 5-6 hours is about right. It will make a lot of juices, and you should baste the pork shoulder with the juices. This braising will make it incredibly tender and juicy.

Now here is where it becomes again uniquely C/PR/D. When the shoulder done, drain off all the liquid. C/PR/D is actually served kind of dry, and this is the point at which you let the meat get crispy. You don't need to cook it for very long after this. The juice is very garlicy, and diluted with stock, makes good gravy.

When the shoulder is just about done, turn off the oven and put on the broiler on high, with the pork about 6 -12 inches below the fire.

Watch it very carefully. You don't want to ruin all your work at this point by burning it. What you want to do is get the skin to crackle and bubble and for the fat just under it to liquify. In other words, you are making what Americans call "crackling" on the pig.

Take it out. You probably won't want to let it rest. The crackling ("cuero" in Spanish) is so good that your family will fight over it and no one will allow the pig to rest at this point.

Crack off a piece of cuero and hide it for yourself.


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