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Old 02-16-2012, 01:08 PM   #11
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Are there any condiments that don't go bad ever? (Not including dry condiments like salt or seasoning mixes which may lose their potency or otherwise become unattractive but are still usable.)

Any moist condiment I can think of with moisture (ketchup, mayonnaise, relish, etc.) has got to have some kind of maximum shelf life. You know for sure when you see mold or other discoloration forming.

I like to mark purchase date on my condiments using a permanent market. I've often found condiments that have been in my refrigerator for several years, which I often toss and get a new replacement just out of principle.

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Old 02-16-2012, 01:40 PM   #12
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I don't know about pepper, but I can tell you that vinegar goes bad. I've had red wine vinegar that eventually oxidized and developed some seriously disgusting sediment in the bottom of the bottle.

But it still didn't go bad. It was still safe to consume.

Even unpasteurized vinegar is still ok after it develops a mother. Mothers look a lot different than sediment.

Soy sauce, fish sauce are also things that dont go bad.

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Old 02-16-2012, 01:40 PM   #13
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No, it was black sediment. Maybe it wasn't "bad" in the sense that it was spoiled, but it was definitely "off".
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:43 PM   #14
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who knew there was a "Vinegar Institute?"

What is “Mother”?

“Mother” of vinegar will naturally occur in vinegar products as the result of the vinegar bacteria itself. Mother is actually cellulose (a natural carbohydrate which is the fiber in foods like celery and lettuce) produced by the harmless vinegar bacteria. Today, most manufacturers pasteurize their product before bottling to prevent these bacteria from forming “mother” while sitting on the retail shelf.
After opening, you may notice “mother” beginning to form. Vinegar containing “mother” is not harmful or spoiled. Just remove the substance by filtering and continue to enjoy the product.
How Long Does Vinegar Last?

The Vinegar Institute conducted studies to find out and confirmed that vinegar’s shelf life is almost indefinite. Because of its acid nature, vinegar is self-preserving and does not need refrigeration. White distilled vinegar will remain virtually unchanged over an extended period of time. And, while some changes can be observed in other types of vinegars, such as color changes or the development of a haze or sediment, this is only an aesthetic change. The product can still be used and enjoyed with confidence.
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Old 02-16-2012, 02:02 PM   #15
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This should solve the problem of mother in vinegar. Vinegar worms were sold years ago as fish food. May still be. They eat the bacteria, or mother, in vinegar. Vinegar manufacturers just filter them out. (Wikepedia)

Turbatrix aceti (Vinegar eels, Vinegar nematode) are free-living nematodes that feed on the microbial culture, called mother of vinegar used to create vinegar, and may be found in unfiltered vinegar. Vinegar eels are often given to fry (baby fish) as a live food, like microworms.
Although they are harmless and non-parasitic, leaving eels in vinegar is considered objectionable in the United States and is not permitted in vinegar destined for American consumers. [1] Manufacturers normally filter and pasteurize their product prior to bottling, destroying the live bacterial and yeast culture that these nematodes require for sustenance.[2]. They are usually about 2mm long and feed on the bacteria from apples
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:08 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Gourmet Greg View Post
Are there any condiments that don't go bad ever?
Honey never, ever goes bad. They found honey in Egyptian tombs that was still useable.
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Old 02-16-2012, 04:08 PM   #17
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We have that hanging on the refrigerator at work. As a former bio/chem major and a foodie I got a great laugh out if it. Great humor/parody IMHO.

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Came across this the other day and I thought I would share it with you. Should spark some discussion. Interesting enough..Table of Condiments
That Periodically Go Bad

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Old 02-16-2012, 05:20 PM   #18
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Well darn, gonna have to go throw out everything I own
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Old 02-18-2012, 11:01 AM   #19
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Go to the link on the bottom of the periodic table: FNORD
even funnier.
F.N.O.R.D. -- A Non-Prophet Organization

F.N.O.R.D. is a Discordian disorganization dedicated to....
Well, We at F.N.O.R.D. aren't really dedicated to anything, per se, but, as we at F.N.O.R.D. like to say:
We think all right thinking people in this world are SICK and TIRED of being told that ordinary, decent people are not fed up in this world with being sick and tired. We certainly are. And we're sick and tired of being told that we're not. (here is an opposing view)

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