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Old 07-21-2006, 10:03 PM   #1
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Truth about Coconut Oil

I've been reading lately about the benefits of coconut oil, and yet there are many people and most physicians who say to avoid it because of its high saturated fat content. Others say that the type of saturated fat it contains is beneficial and can actually help prevent heart disease. I have also read that studies which were done on coconut oil that proved it unhealthy, were actually done on the hydrogenated kind and so are not indicative of its value. Does anybody have any thoughts on this matter?

I keep a kosher kitchen, and so I am always looking for butter substitutes that are healthy and not hydrogenated. I dont like to use olive oil for high heat sauteeing, I can never be sure if other oils are hydrogenated or prepared with chemical solvents.

Can anyone help with this dilemma?

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Old 07-21-2006, 10:10 PM   #2
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I've always gone by the old adage that tropical oils in general are not as healthful as others.

Hydrogenated oils are solid rather than liquid at room temp. Crisco shortening is hydrogenated vegetable oil.
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Old 07-21-2006, 11:16 PM   #3
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Can you believe that for thousands of years the human race has survived not knowing anything about saturated fats or unsaturated fats or what any of there food was chemically made of? It just seems so strange that now that we know we're analizing everything we eat so carefully and trying to only eat whats exactly right. If we'd been born not that many years ago, we wouldn't know butter was bad and olive oil was good, or that all the protein was in the whites, or any of the things we have to obsess about today.

That wasn't meant to be rude though, just my thoughts. Hmmm, I'm gonna say Coconut oil... good? Bad? Good for baking cakes.
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Old 07-21-2006, 11:19 PM   #4
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Back in those good old days, people died in their 40s, 50s, and if they really held on for a long time, their 60s.
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Old 07-21-2006, 11:21 PM   #5
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^True. The reason our lifespan has gotten so much longer is a lot because we have better nutrition. People laugh when I say that because people think of the U.S. and the wealthy world as being unhealthy because so many of us are overweight, but we're living a **** of a lot longer than people who are malnutritioned in parts of Africa. And the lifespan gets longer every generation.

OK, begone with my last post. I want to live long.
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Old 07-21-2006, 11:51 PM   #6
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It is not a simple matter of substituting coconut oil for another type of oil.

Coconut oil and hydrogenated coconut oil eg copha can leave a "coated" mouth-feel if the product is not used in recipes specifically formulated for coconut oil.
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Old 07-22-2006, 12:27 PM   #7
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Back in those good old days, people died in their 40s, 50s, and if they really held on for a long time, their 60s.
Truth to tell, in colonial times, folks were lucky to make it to their 40's! In fact, when SocialSecurity was instituted, and the reason it is in trouble now, the average life span of a white male was 47! so they arbitrarily chose "65" as the magic number because the odds were not too many folks would ever live to collect!

There are any number of people, mostly in the tropics, who live long and healthy lives eating coconuts and all its byproducts. However, I doubt their coconut oil is hydrogenated. and THAT, I believe, is the kicker. If you can find -- and nowadays, I believe you can -- coconut oil that is not hydrogenated, there is no question it would be better in your Kosher diet than any of the margarines you are probably using now.

I'd be searching it out.

BTW... in a post farther up, I read someone refer to butter as "BAD." Butter is not BAD... especially in moderation. Olive oil is "better," but not applicable to all situations in which you might use butter.

We're being challenged these days to use our noodles! We can't just pick up any old thing from the grocery shelves. We have to be smart for ourselves and our families and friends.
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In fact, when SocialSecurity was instituted, and the reason it is in trouble now, the average life span of a white male was 47! so they arbitrarily chose "65" as the magic number because the odds were not too many folks would ever live to collect!
Just for the record, the average lifespan in 1935 was more like 63.
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I thought coconut oil was just for slathering on one's body to get a tan when one was ignorant about skin cancer
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Old 07-22-2006, 09:03 PM   #10
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[quote=ChefJune]Truth to tell, in colonial times, folks were lucky to make it to their 40's! In fact, when SocialSecurity was instituted, and the reason it is in trouble now, the average life span of a white male was 47! so they arbitrarily chose "65" as the magic number because the odds were not too many folks would ever live to collect!

There are any number of people, mostly in the tropics, who live long and healthy lives eating coconuts and all its byproducts. However, I doubt their coconut oil is hydrogenated. and THAT, I believe, is the kicker. If you can find -- and nowadays, I believe you can -- coconut oil that is not hydrogenated, there is no question it would be better in your Kosher diet than any of the margarines you are probably using now.

I'd be searching it out.

BTW... in a post farther up, I read someone refer to butter as "BAD." Butter is not BAD... especially in moderation. Olive oil is "better," but not applicable to all situations in which you might use butter.

We're being challenged these days to use our noodles! We can't just pick up any old thing from the grocery shelves. We have to be smart for ourselves and our families and friends.

[I really believe you are right about this, we cant just go into a store these days and pull whatever off the shelves. The hydrogenation of fats has now been proven to be unhealthy, and goodness knows what else we ingest that in 10 or 20 years we will find out that we can get cancer from. I stopped using margarine and vegetable fat years ago. I dont use polyunsaturated oil anymore either because of it being processed under high heat, which causes rancidity, and with chemical solvents. My question about coconut oil refers to the organic kind which is not hydrogenated. I have read that coconut oil contains something called Lauric Acid which is also found in butter and I have read can help prevent disease. I wonder if anyone has some more information on this or an opinion.

Even though most medical professionals will tell you that saturated fat is the worst thing you can eat, I wonder why we automatically have to believe it. They have after all been proven wrong on many things.

It is too bad that we have to think about these things. The problem with potentially living longer, is also the potential for having a bad quality of life in those later years. It may be worth it to give a care about whats on our plate and in our air etc. now. ]
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