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Old 12-09-2011, 08:18 PM   #51
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Oh no I get it, and I use the canned crushed tomatoes for my sauce usually.

BUT.. Kathleen had started her garden and we had designs on turning tomatoes into a nice sauce. That recipe does not start with opening a can of tomatoes.
Even the pros say that canned tomatoes are better than flavorless greenhouse tomatoes in the winter. And I have to agree with them. Then the price of buying "on the vine" leaves my pocketbook empty. They still haven't found a way to freeze those delicious red orbs in order to capture the immediate fresh essence of the glorious tomato. Once the tomato is cooked, you can freeze it. I wonder if I opened a large can of tomatoes, simmered them for about ten minutes and then placed in a freezer friendly bags, would that do the trick of maintaining their freshness and getting rid of the can. Although I have done canning, mostly jams and jellies, I am very hesitant about canning tomatoes. Botulism is not my favorite food. I would prefer my 'canned' tomatoes be in a glass jar. (No, not Prego.) But they only come in cans. And for added ingredients all I want to read is "basil and salt." Anything else, I will add myself.
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:40 PM   #52
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I wont make anything that has goat cheese in it. Tastes like the goat smells if you ask me
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:55 PM   #53
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I wont make anything that has goat cheese in it. Tastes like the goat smells if you ask me
You know, Joshua, you make sense. I've tried really hard to like goat cheese, but it always had that, je ne sais quois, (pardon my bad French) goatlike taste!
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:04 PM   #54
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I wont make anything that has goat cheese in it. Tastes like the goat smells if you ask me
That taste comes from billy goat.

I know folks who raise goats and make goat cheese and they won't own a billy goat, just so the milk won't get that special taint.
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:16 PM   #55
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That taste comes from billy goat.

I know folks who raise goats and make goat cheese and they won't own a billy goat, just so the milk won't get that special taint.
I am lost on this one. It sounds like you are saying that Billy Goats give milk.

I am under the impression that female goats, like heifers, (or any female animale) cannot come into giving milk until they have been bred. And they can't be bred without a male in the picture. Am I wrong on this?
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I am lost on this one. It sounds like you are saying that Billy Goats give milk.

I am under the impression that female goats, like heifers, (or any female animale) cannot come into giving milk until they have been bred. And they can't be bred without a male in the picture. Am I wrong on this?


No, Billy goats don't give milk. But, Billy goats have so much pungent odour, that it can taint the milk if they get near the nannies.

You are right that the nanny goats need to get pregnant regularly to continue giving milk, and yes, it takes a Billy goat to do that. I had to ask about this too. They just get stud service from another goat farm, instead having one of the stinkers around all year.
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Old 12-10-2011, 12:31 AM   #57
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No, Billy goats don't give milk. But, Billy goats have so much pungent odour, that it can taint the milk if they get near the nannies.

You are right that the nanny goats need to get pregnant regularly to continue giving milk, and yes, it takes a Billy goat to do that. I had to ask about this too. They just get stud service from another goat farm, instead having one of the stinkers around all year.
I used to work with 4H kids and their animals. When they would bring their animals to the fair, very few males were allowed. Just too ornery and mean. The males had to be of championship blood line. And that included roosters, bunnies, pigs, horses, etc. The reason for the championship line is that the kids would sell them during the fair for stud services to farmers that needed a good stud line. I never met a male animal that didn't stink. They all have that musk sac.
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Proof that you learn something new every day. I've never had goat cheese, and I won't bother now.
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Old 12-10-2011, 02:51 AM   #59
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you really should try it zhi. how would you know if you don't like it if you don't give it a shot?


and lol, the reason males get mean is that they're not around females very often, so when they see one their breeding instincts take over.

conversely, if you spend a lot of time around females, you realize that god created sports for a reason...
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Old 12-10-2011, 03:50 AM   #60
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I wont make anything that has goat cheese in it. Tastes like the goat smells if you ask me
A friend of mine says the same thing. I love goat cheeses, but CANNOT stand goat milk. However, I am considering getting a dairy goat next spring. I too have been told if you don't have a billy, the milk doesn't have that strong taste/smell. And, a nanny is a lot easier to milk than a cow is. Sheep are very hard to milk, IMO. Been there, done that. But I did find the nanny (goat) easier to milk by hand my friends had. Been there, and done that too. Figure I can make cheese and give any excess goat milk to the hens.
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