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Old 10-28-2018, 11:34 PM   #21
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I couldn't sleep, so I got up and had a TastyKake Butterscotch Krimpet and milk... the milk just went in my mouth and out my nose. ..
I'm sorry, cd, I didn't plan on trying to drown you. Honest. Thankfully, you weren't drinking something that makes the nasal passage burn, like sody pop or alcohol.

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It's got better marketing.
No kidding. You beat me to this.

larry, Himself swears that kale is really that plastic stuff some butchers use to separate the different types of meat in the butcher case. As far as how it got popular? My theory is it has to be the Smoothie Crowd. They were looking for something green and leafy to put into their smoothies to justify having a milkshake for breakfast. Kale was cheap because no one really wanted it, passing it up for spinach and Swiss chard and collard greens. Once the hipsters made it popular, the price went up - which is exactly what drives the sale of such things. "It's expensive? It must be good! I must have it!". And, thus, kale is now considered hip and trendy, showing up on menus all over. I know that you know your nutrition, so don't get hung up on one veggie that you think you should like. Instead, find the veggies that are good for you that you enjoy, and eat with joy!

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Old 10-28-2018, 11:47 PM   #22
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Y'all, I must be in the minority with Larry!
I enjoy Kale, be it Dino, Redbor, Siberian, Black, Curly ... I don't care.
And I feel the reason why y'all like it in soups is, it's been boiled aka braised.
I make all kinds of dishes with Braised Kale in it and if my picky-10-year-old-husband will eat this willingly, the rest of you are beyond me...
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Old 10-28-2018, 11:59 PM   #23
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Just think of it as we're leaving more kale for you to eat, K-Girl. There are so MANY different veggies out there than no one should apologize for not liking one or two of them. Even Kayelle is allowed to hate Brussels sprouts. More for Himself (and me, when they're with bacon and mushrooms...).
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Old 10-29-2018, 12:26 AM   #24
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Again, fresh kale is delicious. I guess some people just haven't had it grown and harvested correctly,, because we used to pick, rinse, and eat it raw in the garden much like tomatoes, stringneans, and such.
Sauteeing it for a bit sould work just fine.
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I'm sorry, cd, I didn't plan on trying to drown you. Honest. Thankfully, you weren't drinking something that makes the nasal passage burn, like sody pop or alcohol.


No kidding. You beat me to this.

larry, Himself swears that kale is really that plastic stuff some butchers use to separate the different types of meat in the butcher case. As far as how it got popular? My theory is it has to be the Smoothie Crowd. They were looking for something green and leafy to put into their smoothies to justify having a milkshake for breakfast. Kale was cheap because no one really wanted it, passing it up for spinach and Swiss chard and collard greens. Once the hipsters made it popular, the price went up - which is exactly what drives the sale of such things. "It's expensive? It must be good! I must have it!". And, thus, kale is now considered hip and trendy, showing up on menus all over. I know that you know your nutrition, so don't get hung up on one veggie that you think you should like. Instead, find the veggies that are good for you that you enjoy, and eat with joy!

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The 14 Healthiest Leafy Green Vegetables
My biggest customer is a far right-wing, conservative, Christian Republican. But, if you looked at his diet, you would think he's a Birkenstock-wearing, SanFran hippie liberal.

He takes me to places that serve healthy stuff from a blender. It is all some shade of green. It tastes like lawn clippings (well, what I imagine lawn clippings would taste like).

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Old 10-29-2018, 02:44 AM   #26
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Again, fresh kale is delicious. I guess some people just haven't had it grown and harvested correctly,, because we used to pick, rinse, and eat it raw in the garden much like tomatoes, stringneans, and such.
Sauteeing it for a bit sould work just fine.
Does kale taste good with that "taylor ham" stuff. I figure it would ruin a good Pork Roll sandwich.

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I have the same problem with bok choi. Well, sometimes it's too bitter for my taste in restos.


I thought everyone knew to blanch vegis that might have bitter flavours. I find that it doesn't always work well enough, like with dandelions and several wild greens.
Blanch more than once. I have had to do it sometimes as much as three times before I found it acceptable.
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What we need in this thread is a deep South Soul Food cook. They have this mojo with things that you would think should never be eaten -- especially leafy greens.
They have these things called books where people can learn all kinds of things they didn't grow up with Plus internet and tee vee.

Greens are quite popular here in the upper south as well, although I have never liked them much, except in soup. The secret is to cook them for two hours with seasoning pork - any kind of American-style cured pork product such as Virginia country-style ham, ham hocks or air-dried sausage. I don't consider eastern North Carolina to be the "deep" south, either, but here's Vivian Howard's recipe from her grandmother. It sounds a lot like my great-aunt's recipe.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/recipe-...-in-potlikker/
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No kidding. You beat me to this.

larry, Himself swears that kale is really that plastic stuff some butchers use to separate the different types of meat in the butcher case. As far as how it got popular? My theory is it has to be the Smoothie Crowd. They were looking for something green and leafy to put into their smoothies to justify having a milkshake for breakfast. Kale was cheap because no one really wanted it, passing it up for spinach and Swiss chard and collard greens. Once the hipsters made it popular, the price went up - which is exactly what drives the sale of such things. "It's expensive? It must be good! I must have it!". And, thus, kale is now considered hip and trendy, showing up on menus all over. I know that you know your nutrition, so don't get hung up on one veggie that you think you should like. Instead, find the veggies that are good for you that you enjoy, and eat with joy!

Leafy Greens: Nutrition Rock Stars

The 14 Healthiest Leafy Green Vegetables
It started with a book in the '90s about "superfoods," exploiting early medical discoveries about antioxidants. Of course, the alt-med people jumped on the bandwagon and hyped it to death. Turns out that eating antioxidants - or worse, taking them as dietary supplements - doesn't do much for your health and too much can cause problems.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...g-ploy/573583/

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It started with a book in the '90s about "superfoods," exploiting early medical discoveries about antioxidants. Of course, the alt-med people jumped on the bandwagon and hyped it to death. Turns out that eating antioxidants - or worse, taking them as dietary supplements - doesn't do much for your health and too much can cause problems.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...g-ploy/573583/

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I wanted to highlight this key paragraph (she also mentions kale in this article).

"I love blueberries, wild and cultivated, but they are a fruit like any other. Their antioxidants may counteract the damaging actions of oxidizing agents (free radicals) in the body, but studies of how well antioxidants protect against disease yield results that are annoyingly inconsistent. When tested, antioxidant supplements have not been shown to reduce disease risk and sometimes have been shown to cause harm. The USDA no longer publishes data on food antioxidant levels “due to mounting evidence that the values indicating antioxidant capacity have no relevance to the effects of specific bioactive compounds, including polyphenols on human health.” The U.S. National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health at the NIH judges antioxidants as having no special benefits. People who eat more fruits and vegetables have less risk of chronic disease, but nobody really knows whether this is because of antioxidants, other food components, or other lifestyle choices."
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