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Old 09-01-2007, 11:00 AM   #1
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Why is risotto so much *creamier* in restaurants compared to my own?

Hi,
Is it simply that they add cream at the end?

I mean, I do use the right kind of rice, arborio or carnaroli.

I make a good enough risotto, and it absorbs plenty of liquid (wine and broth) but why, oh why, is risotto so much more unctuous when I eat out in a restaurant?

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Alex Rychlewski

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Old 09-01-2007, 11:45 AM   #2
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ooh, good word, unctuous. it's a stretch on the definition, as it's usually used as a negative adjective.

i'm an expert by no means, having made risotto only a few times recently, but i conjecture that it was one of the following possible variables: the temp at which it's cooked; the size and shape of the cooking vessel; the method in which the liquids are added; the quality of the rice; and the method by which the rice is stirred.

my early attempts at risotto have been surprisingly successful. i dare say as good as restaurants. but it was a labor intensive pain the the, uhh, forearm. the best results were achieved by using imported italian arborio, chicken stock, butter, oo, salt, and shallots, and then nearly constantly stirring and folding the rice until it's completion in a 5 quart, stainless steel wide saute.
after the initial pour, liquid was added as the mixture began to thicken to an obvious point near sticking.

i tasted it so many times along the way that it was interesting to see how it was enjoyable in different ways, at different stages of doneness.

good question, alexr. i'll be very interested in the experienced answers to this one.
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Old 09-01-2007, 11:47 AM   #3
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Without knowing exactly how you make yours there is no way for us to know. Detail the steps you take and that will help a lot.

Are you waiting for the liquid of absorb before you add the next batch? Is the liquid that you add hot? Are you stirring enough. Are you adding butter at the end? How much?
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ooh, good word, unctuous. it's a stretch on the definition, as it's usually used as a negative adjective.
Hmm interesting. The only time I have heard that word used was in reference to food and it was always a positive description, such as the mouth feel from a good chicken stock. I looked the word up on Websters though and I learned something new. As Bucky points out it can be a negative as well.
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Hmm interesting. The only time I have heard that word used was in reference to food and it was always a positive description, such as the mouth feel from a good chicken stock. I looked the word up on Websters though and I learned something new. As Bucky points out it can be a negative as well.
Negative indeed -- think of the stereotypical used-car salesman. Or better yet, think of Mr. Potter, oozing insincere earnestness, as he tries and almost succeeds in convincing George Bailey that the financially smart thing to do would be to sell him the bank. They shake hands, and Bailey's disgust at the touch of the old man, the oily residue that symbolized his nefarious plans, reminded Bailey that it's not money that makes life wonderful.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:20 PM   #6
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In the food world though, it is sometimes a positive. An unctuous stock is what you are after or in this case an unctuous risotto.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:25 PM   #7
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Here is an example of what I mean. This is from the "Atlanta Journal and Constitution"
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A warmed, crusty French roll arrives split, lightly smeared with unctuous chopped liver.
A definition from this online dictionary also list one possible definition as
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Containing or composed of oil or fat.
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in the food world, it primarily means excessively oily or fatty. depending on your point of view, it's mostly intended as unpleasant.

i have no problem with tasty excess.
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When it comes to food or wine I always see it used in a positive manner. Here is another example and another (scroll down to Pedro Ximenez) and another (2nd paragraph).
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again, it's correct, but it's a stretch. ximenez?

what's the word for a word that has nearly opposite meanings, and can't seem to let things go?

have we not strayed from creamy risotto?
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