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Old 09-01-2018, 11:07 AM   #1
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Curdle milk usage help.

Today i am gonna try to curdle milk. I want to try to make a cheese or anything like that with it. So i would like some proposition for a first time try. What kind of cheese i can make (preference hard cheese) for a first try, easy to do and not really complicated?

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Old 09-01-2018, 11:18 AM   #2
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You don't mention if you have rennet available, which is used often in hard cheeses.


You could try a simple type of cheese, like a yogurt/or kefir, that is drained a long time and pressed into a form similar to a hard cheese form. Don't forget to add salt either, before you press (you mill it in) or after you press (you brine it).


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Old 09-01-2018, 11:31 AM   #3
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It will make a difference if you are using raw milk or pasteurized homogenized milk, the second one will need Calcium Chloride in a 30% solution to help with curd formation.


A cheese that is shaped into a hard cheese form, is Bel Paese. Here is a video.

You don't need a cheese cage to age it, you can just refrigerate it. Good luck.
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Old 09-01-2018, 05:59 PM   #4
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Im really new to this, and i look something wich doesnt need some advanced products. I have pasteurized milk, vinegar or lemon juice. Thats all. And i dlike to see what i can do with that. I it possible to use bacterias from another cheese?
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Old 09-01-2018, 07:03 PM   #5
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If you are just using acid, lemon juice/vinegar, then this section of the cheese making forum is just about those kinds of cheeses.
These are called Fresh Direct Acid Coagulated: FRESH DIRECT ACID COAGULATED - Primarily Non-Lactic & Non-Rennet
Those are all primarily non-lactic and non-rennet cheeses.


Your second question: Yes and no you can use Yogurt for thermophilic culture and Kefir for mesophilic culture.


If you try to make blue cheese, you might visit that section of the cheese making forum, and use distilled water with blue from blue cheese.



If you want to make a brie or camembert, you can sometimes use the outer mold on those cheeses with distilled water, to get the white mold going on your cheese. There is also a section on the cheese making forum about white mold cheeses.


The book on making natural cheeses, by David Asher is all about using natural cultures to make cheese and it gives lots of explanations and pictures of each type. https://www.amazon.com/Art-Natural-C.../dp/1603585788
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Old 09-01-2018, 07:35 PM   #6
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There is a recipe on this link for Lemon Cheese.
Lemon Cheese Seasoning Suggestions


There is a recipe and pictures for Queso Blanco on this link:
Queso Blanco Cheese Making - John's Cheese #001
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Old 09-01-2018, 07:47 PM   #7
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Thanks for your help and advices. Where i live is really hard to get bacteria cultures, so will be helpfull to use other cheeses.
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Old 09-03-2018, 12:10 PM   #8
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AmineF, did you come up with a plan, a cheese? I hope it goes well for you.
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Old 09-03-2018, 05:37 PM   #9
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I did a simple cheese. I drained and pressed th curd i got, seasoned with salt, herbs and garlic, and the result was quiet good. Family said taste like Boursin (a brand of cheese). For the moment i can only work with pasteurized milk (the only kind available, eccept UHT and skimmed, wich i heard are not usefull)
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Old 09-03-2018, 05:42 PM   #10
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WOO HOO, excellent. That's so great you made a cheese!


Yes, you can use pasteurized. UHT Ultra high Temperature pasteurized doesn't form a good curd, you are correct.
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