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Old 12-03-2007, 11:49 AM   #31
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But again, by your own words so really they are not rejecting it. They have actually accepted it.
No, again, you are twisting what I said in relation to this thread. This thread is about its use ON THE INTERNET. The point of this thread was not texting using a phone where you have a limited number of characters you can use. The thread was about the internet. And accepting something is subjective. They have not accepted the concept but rather the need based on limitations. I accept that I people to have satelite to get the NFL network, doesn't mean I embrace it.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:51 AM   #32
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I have to strongly disagree with that. We've hosted six exchange students over the years, and most of them are very strong students. They generally take the most rigorous academic classes (AP and honors) and excel in them while becoming fluent in the everyday use of English (they study it for several years before coming over, but that's different from using it all day, every day for 10 months). The last two were here in the last three years, as texting was becoming more and more popular, and both use that in their emails to us, as well as instant messaging. They certainly know the difference between that and writing a paper for a class.

I don't see it as any different than the many acronyms we use here at DC - it just saves time when IM'ing and character usage when texting. No biggie
So six students you influenced is your criteria? Sorry, that doesn't work for me.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:54 AM   #33
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I have to strongly disagree with that. We've hosted six exchange students over the years, and most of them are very strong students. They generally take the most rigorous academic classes (AP and honors) and excel in them while becoming fluent in the everyday use of English (they study it for several years before coming over, but that's different from using it all day, every day for 10 months). The last two were here in the last three years, as texting was becoming more and more popular, and both use that in their emails to us, as well as instant messaging. They certainly know the difference between that and writing a paper for a class.

I don't see it as any different than the many acronyms we use here at DC - it just saves time when IM'ing and character usage when texting. No biggie
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So six students you influenced is your criteria? Sorry, that doesn't work for me.
I don't see where I said my influence had anything to do with it. You said, "Well taught, educated teens are rejecting it." I disagree with that.
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There was no need to "repeat" yourself. I got what you said the first time. You said six exchange students you hosted. If you hosted them, you influenced the.
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There was no need to "repeat" yourself. I got what you said the first time. You said six exchange students you hosted. If you hosted them, you influenced the.
I didn't teach them netspeak, nor have I indicated whether I approve or disapprove of it - I don't even use it myself. They learned it on their own and use it when communicating with us, but we don't use it in return. We haven't really talked about it because I don't see it as an issue. And as a matter of fact, I am currently working on a Certificate in Professional Writing at a local university. One class for the certificate was Writing in Electronic Environments, where we discussed, created different ways of communicating using electronic media. There's a time and place for everything.
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:08 PM   #36
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They have not accepted the concept but rather the need based on limitations. I accept that I people to have satelite to get the NFL network, doesn't mean I embrace it.
Who ever said anything about embracing? We were talking about accepting. Your analogy does not hold.

Anyway you still have not answered my question about Do you believe that your daughter and her friends are indicative of the majority of teens or do you believe that your daughter and her friends are in the minority? When Gotgarlic told of experiences with exchange students you wrote back that it didn't work for you because of the number of students. Do your daughter and her friends comprise that many more people that it would be statistically significant?
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I can barelly understand normal English, forget about the slang.
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:24 PM   #38
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Who ever said anything about embracing? We were talking about accepting. Your analogy does not hold.

Anyway you still have not answered my question about Do you believe that your daughter and her friends are indicative of the majority of teens or do you believe that your daughter and her friends are in the minority? When Gotgarlic told of experiences with exchange students you wrote back that it didn't work for you because of the number of students. Do your daughter and her friends comprise that many more people that it would be statistically significant?
Majority and yes. And, no, I did not tell him it didn't work because of the NUMBER, I said it didn't work because he had influence over them all. There's a difference.

And so there are no doubts that I'm done with this here's an image to express my doneness. Have a good one.
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Well I just find it interesting that we are even having this conversation since it is obvious that the majority of teens these days have embraced netspeak as is evident in popular culture, on TV, in magazines, all over the internet, and I could go on. there are constantly stories in the news about teachers and professors who are amazed that their students think it is appropriate to use netspeak on their exams. You must be right though. The majority of kids these days must reject netspeak and it is only a small percentage that these new stories are about and it is just a few people who are typing these things on the internet.
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