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Old 02-08-2016, 08:28 AM   #21
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Also it is confusing because it is almost like a double negative -- the "no" and then the "aren't". So it's almost like saying "I don't have no plans for dinner tonight" which is a double negative and not grammatically correct.
If it was written down there would be a full stop (I think this is called a period in the US) or even an exclamation mark (!) after the No, ie "No. It isn't" or "No! It isn't" The "No" emphasises the negative of the next sentence.
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Old 02-08-2016, 08:36 AM   #22
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Also it is confusing because it is almost like a double negative -- the "no" and then the "aren't". So it's almost like saying "I don't have no plans for dinner tonight" which is a double negative and not grammatically correct.
No. It isn't.

Not confusing at all. and nothing to do with double negatives. It's about emphasis.

(Don't let me get involved in this. I was the teacher who was old-fashioned enough to make pupils correct spelling mistakes by writing them out ten times )
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Yes, it is correct to say that both (Bryan and Cathy) think they are not the same.

Example: Bryan, Cathy, and two friends are out having a soda (pop, a soft drink), some having Pepsi and some having Coke.
The friends talk about the tastes of Pepsi and Coke. "This one tastes more lemony", "this one tastes more sweet", "this one bubbles differently", "this one isn't overly sweet."

Bryan: But they are not the same then.
Cathy: No they aren´t.

Bryan and Cathy agree that Pepsi and Coke are not the same.
Exactly!
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Old 02-08-2016, 08:39 AM   #24
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Thank you all for your answers. :)

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If it was written down there would be a full stop (I think this is called a period in the US) or even an exclamation mark (!) after the No, ie "No. It isn't" or "No! It isn't" The "No" emphasises the negative of the next sentence.

So just to understand you right:
Cathy's last statement "No they aren't" means the same as "No, I agree, they are not the same.", correct?
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Old 02-08-2016, 06:00 PM   #25
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There are no commercially grown genetically modified grapes anywhere in the world.

How do organic growers produce seedless grapes without using GM technology?

I am very sorry, but you do not know of which you are speaking.

GMO AND GRAFTING GRAPE VINES

This is of your own America. There are of GMOs and please do not speak of how things are done in my country. I know this well.

Not every food or fruit is regulated of the USA in other countries.

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Old 02-08-2016, 06:19 PM   #26
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I am very sorry, but you do not know of which you are speaking.

GMO AND GRAFTING GRAPE VINES

This is of your own America. There are of GMOs and please do not speak of how things are done in my country. I know this well.

Not every food or fruit is regulated of the USA in other countries.

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Um, no, the author of that site does not know of what they are speaking. Grafting is not genetic modification. This, for example:

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Whether grafting induces genetic changes across the graft union as a result of the grafting, evident in grape vine graft hybrids, is a subject of scientific observation, experimentation, discussion, and even debate that goes back to ancient times. Graft ‘‘hybridization’’ involves the creation of a compound genetic system by uniting two distinct genotypes.
People in ancient times knew nothing about genes or genotypes.

You may not remember this, but I am a Master Gardener. Unless you have acquired a degree in viniculture in the same period of time you got married, adopted a child, traveled throughout Europe with an entourage, took over assorted international businesses and the design, building and launch of a ship, and became a pilot, it's possible you don't quite understand the difference between grafting and genetic modification.

I don't know what that last sentence means.
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Old 02-08-2016, 06:21 PM   #27
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I am very sorry, but you do not know of which you are speaking.

GMO AND GRAFTING GRAPE VINES

This is of your own America. There are of GMOs and please do not speak of how things are done in my country. I know this well.

Not every food or fruit is regulated of the USA in other countries.

Love,
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A graft and a genetically modified organism, are two different things. I can give my fertilized egg to another mother and have a child. That child is not genetically modified.

Perhaps this is better discussed in a separate thread about GMO's, instead of a political attack of a European country's company making claims about the USA policies and procedures regarding the lifespan of women in the USA.

This thread is about understanding the English language as a secondary language.
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Old 02-08-2016, 06:47 PM   #28
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A graft and a genetically modified organism, are two different things. I can give my fertilized egg to another mother and have a child. That child is not genetically modified.

Perhaps this is better discussed in a separate thread about GMO's, instead of a political attack of a European country's company making claims about the USA policies and procedures regarding the lifespan of women in the USA.

This thread is about understanding the English language as a secondary language.
Thank you, blissful. That's a great example.
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Americans tend to speak in very short phrases. "Instead of saying "No, they aren't," most of us would simply say "No" or "Nope" (which is not as formal).
Ok thank you, but If you see the whole conversation:
Bryan: Is that an old photo of your friend?
Cathy: No, its not a photo of my friend.
Bryan: Okay, I always need to think about that person on the picture, who I thought was your friend. But they are not the same then.
Cathy: No they aren't.


Does Cathys "No they aren't" mean that she confirms, that the person in the picture and her friend are not the same person?
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Ok thank you, but If you see the whole conversation:
Bryan: Is that an old photo of your friend?
Cathy: No, its not a photo of my friend.
Bryan: Okay, I always need to think about that person on the picture, who I thought was your friend. But they are not the same then.
Cathy: No they aren't.


Does Cathys "No they aren't" mean that she confirms, that the person in the picture and her friend are not the same person?
It's more likely that Cathy's first answer would be "No, it's not."

Her second answer is confirming "No, they aren't [the same person]."
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