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Old 05-18-2008, 02:46 AM   #21
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Sorry Wart, tinnitis is a real problem. All I can do is wish you well.

As far as the child goes, it sounds like he has real problems - and they may be ignored by others at the school because his mom is a teacher. His behavior cannot be explained by just a problem with hearing.

We, as a country, have lost too many children to bullets because the signs of violence and abberancy have been ignored by persons, including teachers, who were afraid to deal with the issue.

Being a teacher means more than just administering a lesson plan. Sorry Corey, I think you have to go to the administration about this.

Any kid who says anythng about a gun in that scenario is disturbed.

We do not need any more children dead.
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Old 05-18-2008, 03:52 AM   #22
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What I see in all this is one simple fact. If he was a hearing child he would be just another naughty brat who needs discipline badly but just becauase he has a hearing pro blem he is a 'poor baby'. It does not do this child any good at all for people to treat him differently or accept bad behaviour just because he has a hearing problem. I have a cousin with hearing loss, she's 11 years old and I have never heard her yelling because she thinks everyone else is deaf too.
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:43 AM   #23
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But doesn't she have to notice the signs and try to address the problems along with him?
Of course she does, but that does not negate the boy holding some responsibility for his own actions as well.
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I agree that the boy should not have said that he has a gun, though we know that he din't have one.
And just how did you know this? You had absolutely no way of knowing that. Kids younger that him have brought guns to school plenty of times before. It is not something that should be taken lightly.



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If he was at the airport and said that, expecially out loud, yes, they would have made an example out of him and probably would have immediately banned him from a plane and from the premises.
Do not fool yourself Corey. If this had happened in an airport he would have most likely been arrested and convicted. Getting banned from the plane would have been the least of his worries.
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Old 05-18-2008, 11:09 AM   #24
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Because before now she didn't need to keep her brat from being expelled because the kid threatened another's life, and for putting the school in lockdown.

No reason for her to tell you this now, except to skate out of it.


Hard of Hearing? Eh??

I have tinnitus, a 24/365 whine of mini jet engines in each ear. Sometimes there is also a hum and occasionally a bell or two. Sometimes it's so bad as it takes on a physical presence.

Enough to distract, enough to make me a bit irritable, even makes me a bit Loony at times.


The school HAD NOT gone into a security lockdown, but it very well could have. Authorities are not taking stuff like this lightly any more - especially since the 09-11 terror attacks.

If an airline ruthlessly kicks a two-year-old boy off a plane for looking out the window of the plane he's on and waving and says "bye-bye to another plane, or if a woman's neon-type artwork on her sweatshirt at the airport last summer sparks widespread panic and causing her to almost be shot, then just imagine what they would do with THIS kid.

Maybe some counciling is in order for the both of them so that they'll both understand each other. I wouldn't want either of them to suffer.
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Old 05-18-2008, 11:11 AM   #25
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It makes me wonder what tv shows or movies he is watching if any, even some cartoons are violent.
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Old 05-18-2008, 11:26 AM   #26
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Of course she does, but that does not negate the boy holding some responsibility for his own actions as well. And just how did you know this? You had absolutely no way of knowing that. Kids younger that him have brought guns to school plenty of times before. It is not something that should be taken lightly.



Do not fool yourself Corey. If this had happened in an airport he would have most likely been arrested and convicted. Getting banned from the plane would have been the least of his worries.


1. That's true.

2. There's a security guard there every day while school is in session. He more than likely was checked out by the guard, was found to be unarmed and told that he's not allowed to say things like that.

He would have been banned immediately if he had one in his posession. And then the schoool probably would have gone into lockdown.

3. Yes, you're right, I forgot to mention that his arrest would immediately follow. But I think that eventually, he would have been released back to the custody of his parents, since in this case, he's too young to go to prison or juivie. Well, maybe juivie, and he probably would be getting some serious counciling as a condition of him being let go.

But he still might have been convicted and ordered to do some community work as punishment for what he did.
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Old 05-18-2008, 11:41 AM   #27
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It makes me wonder what tv shows or movies he is watching if any, even some cartoons are violent.


More than likely, all the wrong shows.

From what it looks like, this kid probably has the run of the house, doing whatever he pleases whenever he pleases.

I sincerely hope that if him and his family are planning to fly somewhere this summer during school vacation, that they sit down with him, have a heart-to-heart talk on the do's & don't rules of air traveling and behavior at the airport. Otherwise, this kid will be left at the gate and the plane will go on without him on board.

Since being there, I just about know which kids like to come to school to argue and fight, and which ones are obedient and respectful. But it's not my job to chastise them. Only if or when they get out of line with me, then I'll talk to them and let them know that they can't do bad things.
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Old 05-18-2008, 11:43 AM   #28
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My mother had serious hearing problems due to having multiple ear infections as a child. This is not uncommon, and often hearing problems are overlooked in children, and serious other problems result.

Shouting that he has a gun is very possible periferally related to his hearing problems, and the possibility that he is/has been discriminated against by his peers and even teachers because of it.

Hearing disabled children deserve and need special attention to their needs, just as visually impaired children do... and all special needs.
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Old 05-18-2008, 11:52 AM   #29
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I thought about that myself.

I still feel bad for the boy in light of the things he's going through. I just can't help it. Kids give me a soft spot, and it's just not in me to be mean to them!

I hope he gets help. He just might turn out to be one of the most respectful ones there.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:29 AM   #30
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I had an acquaintance who was in the field of education for the hearing impaired and deaf ... she told me that quite often she saw handicapped children of all sorts who suffered from parents who felt "too" sorry for them -- they simply couldn't bring themselves to discipline or even say "no" to their poor child who had so many problems in life already. Behavior problems, obesity, and many other problems resulted.

I have been around military people all my life and worked on the flight line for awhile. Many guys who would have been fitted for special, for-their-own-ears plugs would still not wear them out of misplaced macho. Most guys who worked on the flight line or with artillery, etc, have some degree, small or large, or hearing loss as a result sooner or later.

Let's not forget the epidemic the music industry has spawned. You can't tell some people that if I can tell what music you are playing from across the room, your personal sound system isn't personal any more, it is dangerous to your ears. AND your next door neighbors should not be able to tell what you are playing, period.

I think we've all had a relative or friend who simply loves being hard of hearing, no matter what they say. They have carte blanche to ignore those they want to, or even be more agressive in claiming a person they dislike is doing it to them on purpose!

My husband have found ourselves in the past cutting short visits to those we like to spend time with because of a stereo blasting in each of the bedrooms plus a TV on full volume for gramps. No conversation possible.
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