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Old 07-05-2006, 09:49 PM   #31
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I have seen studies that report distractions in general as a major cause of accidents. Further, talking to others in the car and eating while driving far exceed cell phone usage as causes of accidents. Legislators choose to attack cell phone usage as it is an easy target. Try to criminalize eating while driving or talking to passengers...

I'm over 50, not rural, and neither a moron nor an idiot. I use a cell phone. I can, but choose not to, live without it.

I have driven on roads where it is not possible to pull over to make a call or have a heart attack or change a tire.

While I acknowledge that others have different opinions from mine, I do not consider them to be morons or idiots for doing so.
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:50 PM   #32
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Bluecat - I fully apologize to you for missing the fact that you use a hand-free phone. But. . . .

Although these have been found to be less distracting than hand-helds, the distraction is still the conversation rather than the hardware, so there's not much difference.

I'd still pull over. And I still feel that people who can't wait to talk to other people until they're home & relaxed, unless it's something urgent, need to rethink their priorities. No one here will ever convince me that having an in-depth conversation with their friend/girlfriend/boyfriiend/husband/wife will NOT take their attention off the road. You only need to hit a person or animal once to take its life.
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:52 PM   #33
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I am on the side of Breezy and BlueCat, neither of whose comments by the way, have I found the least bit objectionable. Maybe because I agree.

I have an old mobile phone which I keep in the console of my car, just for EMERGENCIES, like, you know, breaking down on the side of the road. Prior to that, I'd have to wait for a cop to come help me, so a cell phone is a benefit to saving time.

Otherwise, I do not carry one on my person, I never have it ON in the car, and I see no reason for doing so. Yeah, GB, almost everyone else I know (other than the five other members of my family) carries one, and I hate that. But we cell-phone-haters get along in life just fine, as we always have.

I vehemently object to people using them in ANY store, restaurant, BEACH, while driving, well, pretty much anywhere in public. People evidently don't grasp the fact that using phones in public is an imposition to others, and extremely rude, self-centered behavior. Many don't consider the fact that one can turn them OFF, and that you don't HAVE to answer them when they ring.

I agree with Breezy - we all grew up without them, and we can all do without using them gratuitously and dangerously.

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Old 07-05-2006, 10:11 PM   #34
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Okay - I fully admit the terms moron/idiot were over the top.

But really - just in the past 3 weeks I've twice almost been run off the road by people talking on their cell phones, not paying attention, & drifting into my highway lane. A 55-mile per hour lane I might add.

Sorry if I find this dangerous.
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:33 PM   #35
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I believe it illegal in alot of states to drive and talk on cell phone,I have a trac phone pay as you go as it does not work in the middle of nowhere where I live but its a comfort to have when I drive long distances in case I run into some sort of trouble and its great at the store if someone has a last minute request as the trip to town is 45 miles away and to the next town which has alot better groceries is 65 miles one way.
yea I've thought about getting a trac phone too, for emergencies. I prefer the idea of pay as you go, no contracts.
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Old 07-06-2006, 12:58 PM   #36
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Wow. What I missed while at work!

Lets be clear here. The tools we use are not responsible for car accidents or anything else. It is the driver who is ultimately responsible for their vehicles. In Alberta, we don't call them "accidents" anymore, they are referred to as "collisions" because they are all preventable and so the word accident is a misnomer.

I suspect I may start off a firestorm with my next comment. I fail to see how a talking on a cell phone is worse (for most people) than talking to a passenger in your vehicle. I know folks are going to say that one of your hands is off the wheel, but come on now, how many of us have driven with one hand? I bet there are very few who could claim to always keep both hands on the wheel. I am not condoning this behaviour, just trying to make a point.

As drivers we all do things that are less than safe. Drinking coffee, flipping stations on the radio, yelling at our kids in the back seat. Most of the time we get lucky and there are no dire results from these actions. Occasionally, though, the consequences of a moments inattention are horrific. Cell phones are not responsible for this. We are.

Breezy (and others), if I understand correctly you are not just upset with the use of cell phones in cars, but with the discourtesy of people using them everywhere. I can see your point. I find it irritating when I am in a restaurant and someone takes a call on their cell phone. However, I find it equally irritating to have someone practically yelling to their dining companion and disturbing my meal. Its easy to place the blame on the overuse of cell phones, but really the blame squarely rests on the individuals for not being aware of (and considerate of) others.

OK, hope that doesn't set everyone off again. Just wanted to point out that COURTESY is what is lacking here. Lets remember that in our posts too please.
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Old 07-06-2006, 01:03 PM   #37
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Brava, Alix. Well said!
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Old 07-06-2006, 01:28 PM   #38
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Y'know Andy...I could use a karma hit, Ken is creeping up on me.
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Y'know Andy...I could use a karma hit, Ken is creeping up on me.
What!? The compliment wasn't enough?!

Fine, I'll go give you karma.
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Old 07-06-2006, 02:27 PM   #40
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University of Utah research reported on the BBC re the dangers of cell phones

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5129094.stm

University of Perth, Australia, research, also reported on the BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4672657.stm

You shouldn't be doing for your own safety, the safety of other people in the car and the safety of other road users.
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