"Discover Cooking, Discuss Life."

Go Back   Discuss Cooking - Cooking Forums > The Back Porch > Off Topic Discussions
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 09-04-2013, 02:59 PM   #11
Chef Extraordinaire
 
pacanis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NW PA
Posts: 18,751
Quote:
Originally Posted by CWS4322 View Post
The idea of purchasing chicken that has been (a) slaughter in NA, (b) shipped to China for processing, (c) processed in China, (d) shipped back to NA for sale bothers me. In my mind, China is thousands of miles away and the fuel to move the chicken from point A to point B back to point A and then to market is unnecessary. Since when did chicken have to be processed in Asia? Makes one long for the days when one could go to the local butcher and get a fresh chicken...
Years ago GE used to ship their train engines down to Brazil to have certain work done to them, them ship them back. It was cheaper than the plant here in Erie doing the work start to finish. I think since then they have stopped doing that.
Same thing, only with chicken.

On a positive note though, when I was at the store today I saw three platters of shrimp in the case, all about the same size; 16-20 count. One was farm raised in Vietnam, one caught in Bangladesh, and one caught right here in North Carolina. And ours was the one that was $5/lb cheaper. It surprised me why they would even bother with the other two.
__________________

__________________
Give us this day our daily bacon.
pacanis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2013, 03:39 PM   #12
Wine Guy
 
Steve Kroll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
Posts: 5,408
Yet another reason to avoid processed foods. I was appalled when I heard about this, but it's just the latest example of the screwed up mentality surrounding food in this country. If people don't speak out against this sort of thing, it will only continue to get worse.

I believe more and more there's something to be said for that whole "eat local" thing.
__________________

__________________
Steve Kroll is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2013, 03:41 PM   #13
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Addie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: East Boston, MA
Posts: 19,017
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoot View Post
Yep, I really became worried after I heard about the Smithfield deal. Is it a done deal or are they still negotiating?
It is not a done deal. There is a group of stockholders that want the company sold off in parts to prevent China from getting any of it. A stockholders meeting is scheduled.
__________________
Illegitimi non carborundum!
I don't want my last words to be, "I wish I had spent more time doing housework"
Addie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2013, 03:43 PM   #14
Master Chef
 
Cooking Goddess's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Body in MA ~ Heart in OH
Posts: 8,242
Hey Hoot, I can't view/open that image. Anyone else have a problem? (I'm using Chrome)

Quote:
Originally Posted by pacanis View Post
That just goes to show you how screwed up our country is, when we can slaughter a chicken, ship it to China for processing, then import it back instead of keeping the whole operation here.
And yet we complain about rising food costs... rightfully so, but this is what happens.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CWS4322 View Post
The idea of purchasing chicken that has been (a) slaughter in NA, (b) shipped to China for processing, (c) processed in China, (d) shipped back to NA for sale bothers me....
Did I misread the article, because I got the impression that the chickens were first grown* in China, then shipped to NA for slaughter, then returned to China for processing, then back to NA to poison us. Seriously? I have a very hard time believing that this can be a cost-effective way of saving a few cents on a nugget.

* I know the term is "raised" but you nurture something you raise. In this instance they're grown...like weeds.
__________________
... nothing is given. Everything is earned. You work for what you have... ~~~ LeBron James
Cooking Goddess is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2013, 03:45 PM   #15
Chef Extraordinaire
 
Addie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: East Boston, MA
Posts: 19,017
Quote:
Originally Posted by CWS4322 View Post
The idea of purchasing chicken that has been (a) slaughter in NA, (b) shipped to China for processing, (c) processed in China, (d) shipped back to NA for sale bothers me. In my mind, China is thousands of miles away and the fuel to move the chicken from point A to point B back to point A and then to market is unnecessary. Since when did chicken have to be processed in Asia? Makes one long for the days when one could go to the local butcher and get a fresh chicken...
We used to have a chicken house here down in the Maverick Square area. You could go, pick out your live chicken, they would ring the neck and pluck and gut the chicken for you. Each process added to the cost. My mother would just have them pluck it. She did the rest herself. When we lived on the farm, it was my job to hold the chicken when the head got chopped off. It is what farm kids did.
__________________
Illegitimi non carborundum!
I don't want my last words to be, "I wish I had spent more time doing housework"
Addie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2013, 03:51 PM   #16
Executive Chef
 
Hoot's Avatar
Site Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: The edge of the Great Dismal Swamp
Posts: 3,308
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooking Goddess View Post
Hey Hoot, I can't view/open that image. Anyone else have a problem? (I'm using Chrome)
Do you mean the little arrow or the symbol beside it. I just switched to Chrome to see what you were talking about. I can see the upward pointing arrow, but I have no idea what that symbol beside it means.
__________________
I used to be a racist, but I don't have much interest in it since Dale Earnhardt got killed.
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement.
Hoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2013, 03:52 PM   #17
Master Chef
 
Cooking Goddess's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Body in MA ~ Heart in OH
Posts: 8,242
Quote:
Originally Posted by Addie View Post
First the chickens, next it will be your Smithfield hams. There is a Chinese company that is trying to bid to buy the company. Smithfield Hams are an American Institution.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Addie View Post
It is not a done deal. There is a group of stockholders that want the company sold off in parts to prevent China from getting any of it. A stockholders meeting is scheduled.
If it does go through, even in parts, we'll have to be on the lookout for more labels than just Smithfield:
In addition to Smithfield, the company's brands include Armour, Eckrich, Gwaltney, Kretschmar, and others.


Looks like the hold out is an investment firm by the name of Starboard. Go Starboard! Then again, they just might be looking to have the Chinese pick up the company one label at a time for a larger profit...
__________________
... nothing is given. Everything is earned. You work for what you have... ~~~ LeBron James
Cooking Goddess is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2013, 03:56 PM   #18
Master Chef
 
Cooking Goddess's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Body in MA ~ Heart in OH
Posts: 8,242
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoot View Post
Do you mean the little arrow or the symbol beside it. I just switched to Chrome to see what you were talking about. I can see the upward pointing arrow, but I have no idea what that symbol beside it means.
Thanks for checking it in Chrome. It's the little "box" at the end of your post. It's the symbol for image when it won't display within the thread. Lately I can't even open it in its own frame. Guess I'll have to ask Himself what's up - he's my in-house tech support but he's not around right now.
__________________
... nothing is given. Everything is earned. You work for what you have... ~~~ LeBron James
Cooking Goddess is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2013, 03:57 PM   #19
Chef Extraordinaire
 
pacanis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NW PA
Posts: 18,751
This is what caught my eye, CG, but I just skimmed it.
"Initially, at least, the chickens will be slaughtered in the U.S. (or another nation that's allowed to export slaughtered chicken to the U.S.), then shipped to China for processing and re-export."
__________________
Give us this day our daily bacon.
pacanis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2013, 04:03 PM   #20
Executive Chef
 
Hoot's Avatar
Site Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: The edge of the Great Dismal Swamp
Posts: 3,308
CG, If you can see the upward pointing arrow, then I reckon that is the image that little symbol is referring to. I merely used a keyboard combination to insert an upward pointing arrow. There is no other image there. I am curious why Chrome interprets the keystroke ALT+24 that way. I will have to look into this.
__________________

__________________
I used to be a racist, but I don't have much interest in it since Dale Earnhardt got killed.
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement.
Hoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
chicken

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Discuss Cooking on Facebook

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.