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Old 03-24-2006, 09:48 AM   #31
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well, every good yankee fan knows that salem is a suburb of boston, so, whaddya expect?

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Old 03-24-2006, 09:50 AM   #32
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I guess I'm more questioning the "anything that might be perceived as negative should be vilified and crushed by the nebulous general public" mentality than anything else.
This is not just something that might be seen as negative. It is negative. This ad is sending a very dangerous message to children and as a responsible society we have an obligation to make sure that the children are protected from messages like this.

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Corazon wouldn't have even known the ad *existed* if it hadn't been brought up.
But thankfully she was made aware of it so she can now do her best to protect her children from it or talk to them about the ad to let them know that no not all touching is good.

Sure you don't have the right to "not be offended", but that does not give the coporations the right to act socially and morally irresponsibly.
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Old 03-24-2006, 09:53 AM   #33
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well, every good yankee fan knows that salem is a suburb of boston, so, whaddya expect?

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Old 03-24-2006, 09:58 AM   #34
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lol, HAH! i knew you guys taked that way!!!!
andy tried to pull that "hollywodd version" garbage...
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Old 03-24-2006, 10:02 AM   #35
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I don't know what you are talking about. I am from Highland Park, NJ.
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This is not just something that might be seen as negative. It is negative. This ad is sending a very dangerous message to children and as a responsible society we have an obligation to make sure that the children are protected from messages like this.[/quote]

See the following quote. I didn't get my "might" statement out of the blue:

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Anything with children that even MIGHT be negative must be dealt with.
This is the statement that I take issue with, which started this whole discussion of who is the arbiter of what is and isn't "walking the line"?

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But thankfully she was made aware of it so she can now do her best to protect her children from it or talk to them about the ad to let them know that no not all touching is good.
Corazon admits to not having a TV. How are the kids going to see the ad? By "talking to them about it" they are exposed to it when they most likely never would have been. That's counter-productive.


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Sure you don't have the right to "not be offended", but that does not give the coporations the right to act socially and morally irresponsibly.
I don't recall ever saying it did.
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Old 03-24-2006, 10:22 AM   #37
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i say we burn someone as a witch anyway. we could charge for tickets.

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Old 03-24-2006, 10:30 AM   #38
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Corazon admits to not having a TV. How are the kids going to see the ad?
I am sure her kids have friends. I am willing to bet that at least one of those friends had a TV. Just because they do not have a TV at home does not mean they will not be exposed to this.

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By "talking to them about it" they are exposed to it when they most likely never would have been. That's counter-productive.
That is what educating our children is all about. I would hardly call that counter productive. Sticking our heads in the sand and pretending this type of thing does not exist or is not offensive is more counter productive then telling our children that a slogan like this is giving the wrong message and that they need to be careful and report any bad touch.




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I don't recall ever saying it did.
I was not saying that you did say that. I was just making a statement.
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i say we burn someone as a witch anyway. we could charge for tickets.

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Old 03-24-2006, 10:46 AM   #40
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That is what educating our children is all about. I would hardly call that counter productive. Sticking our heads in the sand and pretending this type of thing does not exist or is not offensive is more counter productive then telling our children that a slogan like this is giving the wrong message and that they need to be careful and report any bad touch.
Why not just educate them in general instead of using an ad that they might never even see as an example?

I would like to know, though, what show was being watched when the ad came on.
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