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Old 10-06-2007, 11:06 PM   #1
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Cubbie was a Naughty Boy!

As you know our German Shepherd horse is now 9 1/2 months old. I guess I have gotten used to him because he almost seems small to me sometimes. His tail alone is 19 inches long (20 if you count the hair at the end of it), and he uses it to cut a path of destruction throughout the house, as well as slap me in the face now and then!

Anyway, yesterday I took Cubbie outside. Because he has a tendency to pull on his leash we got him a Gentle Leader head collar and it helps a lot. When he is determined, however, even that doesn't stop Cubbie. We were out in the yard when he saw the puppies across the street running around. A couple of them started to come over to see Cubbie but when Cubbie got excited (he LOVES other dogs and cats) it scared them and they ran back across the street. I guess Cubbie decided he was going to go with them. He took off, catching me by surprise. I was holding onto his leash of course. My knees hit the ground and the next thing I knew Cubbie literally dragged me 3 to 5 feet across the grass! (I am at least twice his weight, probably more than twice). It didn't really hurt, but when I got in the house I cried like a baby because it scared me to think what would have happened if I had been on the stairs or out in the gravel road.

I am kind of sore in a few spots today, evidently from my little adventure yesterday. Cubbie is a big baby who doesn't realize what he is doing, but that has to change. Actually he has matured so much that it's almost unbelievable, but he still has a way to go. I have gotten a little lax on his training but have to get back to it. He did really well in his obedience classes, but it is an ongoing process and I need to keep it up.

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Old 10-06-2007, 11:39 PM   #2
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Cubbie sounds like a strong one! I'm glad you weren't hurt badly.
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Old 10-06-2007, 11:47 PM   #3
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Obedience classes for German Shephards are not enough. These dogs need constant training. They are born to be trained. I used to have one years ago and he was a European dog, that means he was much taller. European standards for german shephards are different. Dogs are much taller. As an adult he was like 150 lbs. They are eager to please, but they need constant training and constant reminding who the boss is.
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Old 10-07-2007, 12:03 AM   #4
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Thanks Andy! Yes Charlie, you are right. I know it is my fault for letting up. Cubbie is very smart and picks things up quickly, but he is also very headstrong and will take over as leader if I let him. I think this was a fluke, but I certainly don't want that kind of thing to happen again. Cubbie tends to pick and choose when he will listen to me so he definitely needs to learn to listen to me. I don't think my being only 5'2" helps a lot sometimes! I don't know if I am doing more harm than good, but I have noticed lately that if he is barking at the cat (to try to get him to play) and I call his name or tell him to stop, he ignores me, but if I stand up and bark with a really deep bark, he stops and comes to me. Weird dog.

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P.S. When we can afford it, I will continue with more professional training, but in the meantime it is just Cubbie and me.
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:36 AM   #5
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Are you familiar with the trainer choker? It looks medieval, but itís perfectly safe. In a resting position, itís a normal collar, but when a dog tugs and pulls, it becomes uncomfortable so they stop! Personally, Iím torn about the thing because it just looks wicked in the first place, and Iím also not one to spare the rod with my pets when it comes to a situation that could hurt them, me, or both of us at the same time.

Many people praise this collar, and in the case where the dog has more pull than you, this could level the ground. Itís not a collar you use for a long period of time, only a few months (kind of like crating), but it makes a life long difference that could save you from a very nasty predicament.
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Old 10-07-2007, 10:03 AM   #6
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When you have a dog that is stronger than you are, and of a potentially dangerous breed (no matter how sweet you think he is), you must never let him get the best of you. He must always know who's boss, even if you have to punch him in the nose or whomp him with a board.
I know that sounds mean, but stop and think about how dogs live in the wild. They are social animals, living in a pack. The alpha male leads the pack, and others submit to him. If one challenges him, they fight until one is killed or backs down. The loser is then run off from the pack, and not allowed to return.
If your dog thinks he can get the upper hand over you, you will find yourself in a bad situation. Shepherds are notorious for turning on their owners.
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:03 AM   #7
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Get a Sporn No Pull Harness.

Works great, no training needed.
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Old 10-07-2007, 12:07 PM   #8
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I have a shepard and he is incredibly obedient but we got him when he was about a year old a rescue.I think he's just incredibly grateful because his life before we got him wasn't the best.I find that your tone of voice is important you need to talk to him in a deep stern voice when he does something you dont want him to.Sometimes I will also stomp my foot at the same time to let them know Im not happy.At his age he's testing you on all levels and needs to develop a healthy respect for you and know who the real boss is.Last but not least a shock collar as a last resort alot people dont belive in them but the trick is they have settings on the degree of shock they get you dont want it set that it hurts them and makes them yelp but just enough to to make them turn their head like Huh?Shock collars are only meant to get their attention not hurt them.Think of it as a hearing aid.They get so focused on something that alot of dogs just dont hear you.
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Don't warry about profeccional training, do it your self. There are plenty of reading material you can find nowadays, read and follow up. Who has money any way.
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:13 PM   #10
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Thanks everyone. We had considered a choke collar but decided on the Gentle Leader head collar. It works great and does the job most of the time. Cubbie just caught me by surprise, and he was so determined that he didn't let it deter him. I was sick for several weeks from kidney stones, and I have had some bouts of depression lately and have let his training slip, but I will get back to it, since he and I both need it. I wish we could get a fence around our property so I didn't have to take him out on a leash every time. He really needs to run off some energy. We let him run loose now and then, but I won't do it when James isn't here. Not really sure why! It's just that he goes a little farther each time, and I don't want him going where I can't see him.

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