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Old 03-27-2008, 02:35 PM   #91
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I'm sorry to hear you've had so many losses in the last 2 years, Steamboater. My mom lost my dad 3 years ago and she still has a lot of paralyzing days. I don't think any of us ever really think we will outlive those we love. Especially after so many years. You're right - there is no guidebook for how you should feel. Sadly, each one of us has to find our way through one day at a time. Hopefully we have friends to lean on when we need it. I'm glad you've found DC and I hope our community will be a source of comfort for you, too.
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Old 03-28-2008, 10:03 PM   #92
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Steamboater,
Thank you for your understanding..everyone here has helped me but only someone who has walked in my shoes can really feel my pain.
I do have friends that do say "they are in a better place" inc. my sis who is a Hospice Chaplain..I just say..."How do you know?"
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Old 03-29-2008, 01:36 AM   #93
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hey, let's take marge's shoes!!!

marge, there is a better place. i'm quite () sure of it.

i've spent most of my life, of course with all due respect only slightly more than half of yours, trying to find out the answers to the same stuff as the rest of us. where are we from, why are we here, where do we go, etc.

in analyzing this to the point of insanity, all i can say is that all religions are writer's perceptions of how to explain our lives. what pervades, though, is that we all do have this life energy (whatever that is that makes us alive), and a basic sense of right and wrong. those things cannot be denied, no matter how you deconstruct them in order to figure them out.

so, with that in mind, started to learn about the teachings of various religions, and found striking commonalities. one of them is that god is everywhere, and in everything. again, looking at it backwards, that means we all are god, or have him in us somewhere.

so, i started to think that maybe all of our life energies put back together is god as a whole. that's why it is taught that god is omnipotent. that when we die, we understand everything, and can then forgive and love everything wholly. because we can see/experience things from every point of view.

reality is merely a series of perceptions. what we see and are in our everyday lives. so all of our perceptions mashed back together is the true reality. in other words, god.
i hope i haven't lost you.

in any case, i don't know if it's a better "place", but i do know that we all come back together. so you, whatever it is that makes you , will go back to being one with yours that you have lost, and will be with those that are to come.

inluding pets, btw.

like steamboater said, the best place anyone can be is back together with their family and loved ones. so don't lose faith. relish every day that you have with those here, because soon enough all of us will really be at the same table, having a laugh and telling gw to try an irish coffee, already.


edited to add: ok, so i sound like a nutcase. but YOU try to explain it better, in your own words. (not you, pre se marge, but yous in general )

go ahead. try.


see, now who's crazy.




i feel better.
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:08 PM   #94
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Marge, I've been away from DC and didn't know about this thread. I hope there is a place at the table for me to join all of you.

I am reading a great book along with some of my friends. You might find it interesting. It's entitled "Heaven" by Randy Alcorn. It answers a lot of questions and also gets the reader to look at things from a different perspective. It is a wonderful book! It can be purchased on Amazon or at Christian Family Bookstores.

The author read well over 100 books on Heaven before writing his book. He searched the scriptures for answers. Many of the ideas and thoughts about Heaven that many of us grew up with are incorrect. Of course, some of what he writes is conjecture and opinion, but well thought out. But I think he is right-on with much that he wrote.
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Old 04-03-2008, 09:35 PM   #95
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Marge,
better place, no more pain, are words..They are said in the hope that they will give us comfort and ease..People all of us, are hard pressed as to what to say when someone has a loved one leave this world. So we offer up these words to let you know we do care and deeply....Being together again gives us hope of life after death..with out that thought leaves one wondering what what will become of them..I myself hold tight to the words together again, it gives me hope and a feeling of restful peace, that I will hold them again in my arms.I wish and pray for that for all of us.

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Old 04-04-2008, 01:11 AM   #96
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You are all right..I was just having a bad day...
sorry..
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:24 AM   #97
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Don't apologize for letting us know you're having a rough day, Marge! How can we help if we don't know you're feeling bad? And considering the awful things you've had to come to grips with the past couple of years, it would be crazy to think you'd "be over it". That's why Elf built this table - so your DC family could be with you through this tough time. Folks shouldn't have to keep a stiff upper lip when they are at the table with their family. So no more apologies my friend, and I still have you in my thoughts and prayers every day.
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:27 AM   #98
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:42 AM   #99
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Fishers Mom, beautifly well said..Marge, we all love you and any of us is here for you anytime you have a day be it good or bad..Just remember...We LOVE YOU!
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:53 AM   #100
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I agree with everything Fisher's Mom wrote. Remember, Marge, that grieving is a process that takes time. I respect a person who is honest about their emotions than one who keeps a stiff upper lip. I think most of us here have had losses of one kind or another, maybe not exactly what you have experienced, but heartache and losses. We can jointly support you and hold you up in prayer.
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