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Old 08-26-2011, 05:14 PM   #71
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:31 PM   #72
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Old 08-26-2011, 06:05 PM   #73
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nothing quick about it, clair. that 30 or 40 seconds of rumbling, shaking and disorientation feels like a dante eternity to anyone physically undergoing it. and the aftermath of an earthquake is much more than just quantifiable structural damage incurred. as a californian, i would hope that you already know and can appreciate that. (sorry, this post should be addressed to kayelle, not clair) :)
I'm truly sorry that that earthquake upset you so much vitauta but in no way do I equate a 5.9 to "a dante eternity to anyone physically undergoing it" or I wouldn't have lived here all my long life. Like Max said, " On average there are 4 earthquakes EVERY DAY (somewhere) in this magnitude range. You don't hear about those."
I don't "like" earthquakes but I've never been overly afraid of them either. I know and appreciate that someday we will have a real doozie of an earthquake here that will be a real news event, but I don't dwell on it. There's too much to appreciate in living where I do.
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Old 08-26-2011, 07:21 PM   #74
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I stand by what I said. On average there are 4 earthquakes EVERY DAY in this magnitude range. You don't hear about those.

The only reason it was a big deal is because the media made it one.
qmax, you obviously respect and fear a powerful hurricane as a force of nature, but not most earthquakes. (are there really four 5.9 earthquakes occurring in the world each day?) maybe most of the are happening under the oceans, which cover 5/6 of our earth. anyhoo, i have a very healthy respect and fear, as it turns out, for the earthquake as a force of nature. and until earthquakes become as commonplace as raindrops in my life experience, i will continue to have an irrational and phobic (according to you) fear of them. i also respect and fear massive, destructive hurricanes. but with hurricanes, you can see them coming, and you can move out of their way if you wish. you can even prepare for them in various ways. there is no way to avoid or escape an earthquake. there is no warning before it occurs. nor can you prepare for an earthquake beyond establishing strict building codes for bridges and other structures. the only way to effectively reduce your risk of encounters with earthquakes is to avoid living on or near fault lines where they ore commonly occur--a place like virginia, i thought.were it not for its notorious earthquake history, we would have moved to california to live in 1978. to me, california represented everything beautiful, rich and free. i loved it there. unfortunately, the earthquake factor turned out to be the insurmountable dealbreaker of that california dream....
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Old 08-26-2011, 08:04 PM   #75
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qmax, you obviously respect and fear a powerful hurricane as a force of nature, but not most earthquakes. (are there really four 5.9 earthquakes occurring in the world each day?) maybe most of the are happening under the oceans, which cover 5/6 of our earth. anyhoo, i have a very healthy respect and fear, as it turns out, for the earthquake as a force of nature. and until earthquakes become as commonplace as raindrops in my life experience, i will continue to have an irrational and phobic (according to you) fear of them. i also respect and fear massive, destructive hurricanes. but with hurricanes, you can see them coming, and you can move out of their way if you wish. you can even prepare for them in various ways. there is no way to avoid or escape an earthquake. there is no warning before it occurs. nor can you prepare for an earthquake beyond establishing strict building codes for bridges and other structures. the only way to effectively reduce your risk of encounters with earthquakes is to avoid living on or near fault lines where they ore commonly occur--a place like virginia, i thought.were it not for its notorious earthquake history, we would have moved to california to live in 1978. to me, california represented everything beautiful, rich and free. i loved it there. unfortunately, the earthquake factor turned out to be the insurmountable dealbreaker of that california dream....
I never said I didn't fear a powerful earthquake. It's just a 5.9 is not that powerful. You're talking stuff falling of of shelves, a few cracks in buildings. Few casualties. At least in industrialized countries. In any case, I find quakes that size more fascinating than frightening.

USGS says around 1300 5-5.9's annually on average since 1900. I would have presumed many of these would be underwater, but note the link. this shows major quakes in the last week. Most (logically) are along subduction zones around the world, particularly the Pacific's "Ring of Fire". And most of these place are populated.

Also, note the magnitude 7 in Peru. That's a BIG quake (remember, the Richter scale is base 10 logarithmic, i.e. magnitude 7 release 10 times the energy a magnitude 6 does). This was a day or so after the east coast quake, and the local newspaper carried a 3 paragraph article on it, and I saw no mention of it on any televised news. And I did not hear or read a thing about the mag 7's in Indonesia or Vanuatu.

Earthquakes In The Last Week - very cool link.

I have experienced four magnitude 6 or greater quakes in my life (and a few lesser ones). The last one was the Nisqually Quake (mag 6.8) in the Seattle area in 2001. I was at work when it hit (early afternoon). The building I was in was built in a river valley, so all the soil "liquified", so the building was really rocking and rolling. You know immediately whats happening, I stood next to a steel firedoor until the shaking stopped, unjacked my laptop and ran to the car, concerned with the gas lines running to my house. Everybody else in the region had the same idea, but 10 minutes later, so I beat the traffic jam. No fear, just concern about a gas leak.

To me, one of the more interesting aspects of a quake is the sound. Like a deep, protracted, distant explosion. Nothing else sounds like that.
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Old 08-26-2011, 08:13 PM   #76
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were it not for its notorious earthquake history, we would have moved to california to live in 1978. to me, california represented everything beautiful, rich and free. i loved it there. unfortunately, the earthquake factor turned out to be the insurmountable dealbreaker of that california dream....
Sorry darlin' I've been patient and "hand holding" but now you've gotten me down right defensive about California living. Actually, if we didn't have the very infrequent shakers our population would likely be ten fold. I just don't understand the fear in living here. It's reasonable to understand that the last time we had a significant earthquake was the Northridge, way back in 1994, and before that it was San Fransisco in 1986. Both of those events combined can't compare to damage and loss of life in the rest of the country from hurricanes, tornado's and blizzards every single year!
No doubt about it........one of the many good reasons to live here is the the weather, although I whine about the hot devil winds that can bring fire in the fall.
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Sorry darlin' I've been patient and "hand holding" but now you've gotten me down right defensive about California living. Actually, if we didn't have the very infrequent shakers our population would likely be ten fold. I just don't understand the fear in living here. It's reasonable to understand that the last time we had a significant earthquake was the Northridge, way back in 1994, and before that it was San Fransisco in 1986. Both of those events combined can't compare to damage and loss of life in the rest of the country from hurricanes, tornado's and blizzards every single year!
No doubt about it........one of the many good reasons to live here is the the weather, although I whine about the hot devil winds that can bring fire in the fall.
Hey, how was your cruise? We are less than 5 weeks from our Italy jaunt.

My dentist lost his house in the '94 North Ridge quake. Didn't have it insured either.
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Hey, how was your cruise? We are less than 5 weeks from our Italy jaunt.

My dentist lost his house in the '94 North Ridge quake. Didn't have it insured either.
It was wonderful, Max.
Check it out........stevekathytravels.com

Ykies! I was visiting in San Fransisco at the time of the Northridge quake........no damage at my home. I remember being a little leery of SF at the time. Who knew?
SUCH a long time ago........no news is good news. Yeahhhh!!
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Sorry darlin' I've been patient and "hand holding" but now you've gotten me down right defensive about California living. Actually, if we didn't have the very infrequent shakers our population would likely be ten fold. I just don't understand the fear in living here. It's reasonable to understand that the last time we had a significant earthquake was the Northridge, way back in 1994, and before that it was San Fransisco in 1986. Both of those events combined can't compare to damage and loss of life in the rest of the country from hurricanes, tornado's and blizzards every single year!
No doubt about it........one of the many good reasons to live here is the the weather, although I whine about the hot devil winds that can bring fire in the fall.
i didn't mean for this to deteriorate into some kind of east coast/west coast competition, kayelle. i have no stock in virginia (not anymore, anyhow)and california seems to be getting along just fine without me. this handholding thing thing between you & me?--first i'm hearing about it, don't recall initiating that one myself....
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the earthquakes last week link? fascinating stuff--good to read about, lousy to to experience. the unique rumbling grumbling sound that you're so jazzed by? to me, sounded like an umbilical cord attached to the belching bowels of hell, and felt, eerily enough, very much like an agonizingly loooong, protracted labor contraction--minus the pain. for realz, qmax--not hyperbole.
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