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Old 06-15-2008, 04:38 PM   #31
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"The vast majority of the worlds population does not practice birth control". Shouldn't that be where we should spend our money where it could do the most good?

"Sounds like you are proposing that we let people starve" No one wants to see people starve. However, that is the inevitable result of food demand outstripping supply.

"Some people actually enjoy the procreation process" Count me in. I enjoy the process, but do not like the result, and I know how to prevent that. See comment 1.
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:41 PM   #32
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Whenever I hear somebody propose birth control, I always want to ask that person if that is what his/her parents should have been using.
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:50 PM   #33
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[quote=Bigjim68;627224]"The vast majority of the worlds population does not practice birth control". Shouldn't that be where we should spend our money where it could do the most good?

That is beginning to happen in some poorer countries but meets with cultural biases. In the meantime, people cannot be allowed to starve.

"Sounds like you are proposing that we let people starve" No one wants to see people starve. However, that is the inevitable result of food demand outstripping supply.

Inadequate food is not the issue as much as unequal distribution.

"Some people actually enjoy the procreation process" Count me in. I enjoy the process, but do not like the result, and I know how to prevent that. See comment 1.

See my response #1
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:52 PM   #34
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My parents did practice birth control - as soon as they got to the number of children they could afford. So did I. Seems to be the point.
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Old 06-15-2008, 05:15 PM   #35
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I think that me and thee are getting way too far afield for a cooking forum, so I have two last questions on this matter. What are you having for dinner? and Who's cooking?
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Old 06-15-2008, 05:35 PM   #36
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Pork tenderloin, ranch potato salad and glazed carrots. I do all the cooking.
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Old 06-15-2008, 06:12 PM   #37
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Sounds good. If you ever see it in your area, try Dales marinade. Supposedly a recipe from an Atlanta restaurant that burned down. Soy based, and is really good on pork tenders.

I have a cooking partner that I am training to take over my business in a few months when I retire. The tradeoff is she is teaching me cooking. I consider myself an above average cook, her an above average chef So, every other day I get a meal that rivals anything put out in a quality restaurant. She is Cambodian and survived Pol Pot by cooking for the camp commander. Lost most of her family including a husband and 2 kids 2 yrs and 11 months. The kids to starvation in her arms. Any time I think I am under pressure, I just imagine your life depending on the quality of your last meal preparation.
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Old 06-15-2008, 09:52 PM   #38
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If only the answers were as simple as the question.

Refugee populations trying to escape from corrupt governments, tribal conflicts, religious persecutions ... they can't farm and raise crops while living in refugee camps where they have to depend on trucked in water and food. Just one source of a decline in global food production.

And, then there are natural disasters - like droughts, floods and typhoons. They wipe out crops - and delay replanting.

Money from developed countries does little to help if there is no excess food to buy.

And, there are cultural differences ... what one culture eats - and what may be a surplus in another. I remember hearing that a religious group in a country was telling people that the peanut butter being dropped by the US to help relieve the food shortage was made from "pork" - which was a no-no in their culture - the devout would rater die of starvation, and see their children die of starvation, than defile their bodies.

We can refuse to eat endangered species ... and refuse to eat at restaurants that include them on the menu - like Chilean Sea Bass ... but it does little good if you don't tell the owner why you are not going to eat there before you get up and walk out.

Globally - rice production is down due to natural disasters. The late spring and heavy rains in our "corn belt" region is going to cause a shortage in corn production in the US this year - depending on the rains in July and August - if could be even worse.

Several countries have programs that send people into 3rd world countries to help them increase their agricultural production. But, it doesn't do much good if they are being chased off the land.

And, there is the Catch-22 of the Amazonian tropical rain forests being cut down to clear land for farming - to grow food.

So, seans - you started this thread. What are you doing and what is your answer????

I think we should increase our consumption of beef so that the demand exceeds supply ... that way there are less cows in the field producing methane gas via bovine flatulence .... this will decrease the imapct on the ozone layer ...

FWIW - global warming began the day following the end of the last ice age - just like in the previous cycles.
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That bit about pork in peanut butter sandwiches reminds me of something mentioned in an episode of Penn & Teller "BS". A donation of tons of genetically engineered corn from the U.S. and directed to a number of African nations was refused by Zambia (there may have been others, I don't recall) because environmental activists had convinced the ruling parties that GE foods are poison.
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If only the answers were as simple as the question.

We can refuse to eat endangered species ... and refuse to eat at restaurants that include them on the menu - like Chilean Sea Bass ... but

FWIW - global warming began the day following the end of the last ice age - just like in the previous cycles.
A while ago I said Chilean Sea Bass was a food I wanted to try. It was overfished years ago because of its popularity. I do not think it is now on the endangered species list. Not on subject - just clarifying a point.

For reference

Whole Foods Market : Products : Seafood : Chilean Sea Bass
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