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Old 12-15-2005, 09:45 AM   #31
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I can honestly say I don't think I've ever killed a roach. Never had them around. Ants, well... Having been "introduced" to fire ants, Yeah, I whacked a whole bunch of them when I lived down south. Here in Michigan - as long as they aren't trespassing in the house, they are left alone outside.

(And I think we're starting to tread very closely to the "What won't you eat" thread! )

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Old 12-15-2005, 10:11 AM   #32
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Ugh! Ewwwww! Roaches give me the creeps worse than anything else. When my kids were little, we lived in an old house that had them IN THE WALLS!
I kept my house very clean, and sprayed all the time, but everytime I went in the kitchen and turned the light on, they'd go running. Finally, my mother paid for an exterminator, who finally got rid of them after 3 trips.

When my husband and I were building our new house, his pop, who lived in Florida, sent me a box of bare-root plants and cuttings wrapped in Spanish moss. The box included a few hitch-hikers...Palmetto Bugs. We're talking GIANT cockroaches. Totally freaked me out when I saw one crawling across the ceiling over my bed.

But roaches were here before we were, and will probably be here when we are gone. I saw an article in National Geographic years ago, when they first returned to Bikini, where the nuclear testing was done. It was still inhabited by rats and roaches.
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:28 PM   #33
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My SIL and her family live in Africa and have eaten some bugs. Still pretty high on the ICK scale for me though.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:04 PM   #34
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There are a whole group of people that hunt and display trophy insects, and in prominant display cases. These are those that collect butterflies. They catch them, kill them, and pin them into display cases as beautiful decorations. I think that artificial butterflies could be made that are jsut as beautiful. I know that there are artificial fishing flies that require phenominal skill, and are considered artwork, and that sell for thousands of dollars.

Again, why is it necessary to kill for a trophy?

Many would think I'm absurd, talking about such things. But as was said by others, where do you draw the line between what we consider to be valuable life, and what is not. And should all life be respected?

I belief all life must be respectred, even the mosquito. And yes, I tend to swat petentially biting bugs like most people do. But I try to recue spiders and set them free outsid my home, rather than kill them just because they co-exist with me on this planet. I also leave hornet, wasp, and bee nests alone, so long as they aren't in a rediculously absurd place, like under my porch. And even then, I destroy the nest as many times as it takes to get them to move, rather than spray an insecticide that will kill them. I know how valuable they truly are in nature. Without hornets and wasps, other, disease causing, and crop destroying pests would overun this little world. They are great hunters and use the other insects as food.

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Old 12-15-2005, 03:29 PM   #35
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ok, this discussion gets even better.

when i was a kid, we used to catch yellow jackets (very carefully), shake them up in our cupped hands to stun them, then tied a thread around the body segments and walked/flied them around. when mom called you in for dinner, you just tightened the knot.

my first job in nyc, when i was about 19, was for the associated press fixing modems, teletypes, and laser photo printers. our shop was 3 floors below ground. it was even below the subway running past the building. so, we used to get HUGE roaches, like a palmetto bug on steroids. i used to keep a squirt gun full of denatured alcohol on my desk so when one ran by, you squirted a puddle around it, then tossed on a match. the little things would actually survive the fire, limping away on whatever appendages were left.
so, there's no need to worry about killing a bug. there are thousands of them, just waiting to take it's place. and they're watching you, waiting for you to go to sleep...
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:07 PM   #36
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OK, still breathless with laughter. Buckytom, you are one um...creative cookie! I am sure you had fun with magnifying glasses as a kid too. I know Ken did.
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:16 PM   #37
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Speaking of cockroaches, one night, while working the 11pm to 7pm shift (young and foolish sailor time of my life), I and a shipmate noticed a cockroach scurrying accross the deck (floor for you landlubbers). We caught it and put it into a plastic vial. We then proceeded to experiment with it by rolling it down the hallway and observing its actions when released. Rolling it did nothing whatsoever. So we upped the ante. We taped the vial to the chuck of a Dremmel drill press. Now you have to understand that this thing would spin at 20,000 rpm. We started with 30 rpm, cockroach in vial, and slowly increased the speed to about 2000 rpm. We released the roach. It had been affected, but soon was back to normal. We continued increasing the speed to see how it affected the bug. When we reached about 15-K, it succumbed to inertial and kinda seperated, parts splattering the inside of the vial.

The moral of the story, cockroaches are not indestructable. They can die. So Bucky, you just have to get yourself a high speed Dremel tool and get to work.

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Old 12-15-2005, 05:19 PM   #38
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rofl, that's a great story goodweed!! hmmm, i have a dremel tool, now all i need it a test subject.

i'm sure the last thing that you heard from that cockroack was "WOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!"
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Boy.. you two are mean! But, oh so funny.
When we go to Greece David catches scorpians and puts them in bottles with other icky bugs. He watches them battle to the death. So far, the scorpians have won every match.
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Old 12-16-2005, 09:59 AM   #40
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lol pdswife. that would be cool to watch. like a japanese monster movie from the 60's, but in miniature.

ya know, i guess it's just a guy thing.


goodweed, i think the dremel tool experiment will require some bugs with "the right stuff".

i'm picturing 7 little bugs, walking in slo-mo in a single line, holding their tiny little helmets, heading for the dremel attached test tube.
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