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Old 04-18-2011, 10:28 PM   #81
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OK - I have to say, I don't care which hand you use to hold your knife or even how big the pieces are you cut and cram into your mouth but for pities sake - please CLOSE YOUR LIPS WHEN YOU CHEW. I don't want to see your half masticated victuals tumbling around in your pie hole. And...

Please chew quietly. No smacking or slurping. And...

Once you put something in your mouth DON'T pull it back out and examine it or scrape or wipe it off your tongue. Furthermore...

Do not blow your nose in my linen napkins. Don't forget...

Always thank the person who prepared or delivered your food either with words or tips and even if you didn't really like it very much. If someone cooked for you for FREE and you don't like it keep your mouth shut (the food will stay inside that way anyway). Finally...

No double dipping - ever.

Thank you.

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Old 04-18-2011, 10:33 PM   #82
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PattY1, when I say hold your cutlery like flags, I mean business end pointed to the ceiling, forefinger and thumb on the top. To cut, merely turn the cutlery business end down, thumb and forefinger are now pointed down, and go to town. I have seen many folks take the fork in a fist and stab business end down, pointing out the bottom of their fist. Does that make sense? I can't think how better to describe it.

My Mom was a Girl Guide Commissioner and told us as Guides one day we might have an opportunity to meet the Queen or some other royal and made sure we knew how to manage cutlery well.

Andy, Canadians switch hands as well. I tend to leave my fork in my left hand while cutting meat, or pushing food onto it, but switch when I'm eating salad or something else.

My Dad mentioned that one of the ways Germans caught a few North American spies during the War was to watch them eat. If they switched hands to after cutting their meat, they were busted! I don't know how true that is but it was a fun story.
Your picture of holding like a flag made it clear to me. The other I already understood. Thank you.
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:20 AM   #83
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About 50yrs ago the company my Dad was the FD of won a contract to build a cement factory in Nigeria. The Nigerians came over with there wives to visit the factory here before the build started.
The factory manager was a brilliant Dane his wife was a lovely person and a brilliant cook but very formal. They hosted a dinner party at their house, my Dad said the food was fantastic and the Nigerians expressed their appreciation by burping and farting as is their custom.
Another custom is that when a woman is pregnant to purify the baby the man chews a special leaf and spits a lot.
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:23 PM   #84
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Tipping etiquette. I especially see many tourists from abroad who don't follow the tipping guidelines presented to them. That's not good for people here who depend on tips to make a living.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:16 AM   #85
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Tipping etiquette. I especially see many tourists from abroad who don't follow the tipping guidelines presented to them. That's not good for people here who depend on tips to make a living.
Fix mate you are quite right, the reason is our ignorance of your draconian payment methods for waitstaff. In the UK the min wage is about $9 an hrs, it was only when I talked to a student who worked for the "Outback" restaurant, I found that your min wage does not apply to people who may or may not earn tips, she was on a basic wage of $3.20 an hour. This method of payment is excellent for the management as the customer effectively pays for his meal and subsidises the wage bill. In Europe I pay for what is expected, good food and good service if both exceed my expectations I tip 10% in America if the food is poor but the service is good I give a 15% tip out of guilt, if the food was below standard in Europe I refuse to pay anything, I give them my full name and address and tell them to sue me. I have done this 3 times.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:43 AM   #86
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Fix mate you are quite right, the reason is our ignorance of your draconian payment methods for waitstaff. In the UK the min wage is about $9 an hrs, it was only when I talked to a student who worked for the "Outback" restaurant, I found that your min wage does not apply to people who may or may not earn tips, she was on a basic wage of $3.20 an hour. This method of payment is excellent for the management as the customer effectively pays for his meal and subsidises the wage bill. In Europe I pay for what is expected, good food and good service if both exceed my expectations I tip 10% in America if the food is poor but the service is good I give a 15% tip out of guilt, if the food was below standard in Europe I refuse to pay anything, I give them my full name and address and tell them to sue me. I have done this 3 times.
I love the idea of leaving name and address and telling them to sue you.

In Quebec the general minimum wage, as of 2010 May 1, is $9.50/hr and $8.25/hr for "employees receiving tips".
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Old 04-20-2011, 02:39 AM   #87
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Why are please, thank you and you are welcome to difficult for some folks to say? Really irritates me that people can't be bothered with these basics. It drives my husband insane when in response to "thank you" you get "uh huh". Is it that much harder to say you're welcome Another thing that peeves me is not receiving thank you notes (and I would even accept emails) for shower, wedding, or graduation gifts! I taught my daughter to send thank you notes when she was very young and I continued to remind her into her young adulthood (even though she had mastered the art by then) just my job to make sure she "minds her manners"! Lol!
One more rude thing that I can't stand...people leaving there shopping cart/buggy in a parking space. This falls under grocery store etiquette. I always return my cart and I really resent having to move/return one left by some lazy sot in order to park! Shame on them. Uh oh! My "soap box" is coming out!
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I love the idea of leaving name and address and telling them to sue you.

In Quebec the general minimum wage, as of 2010 May 1, is $9.50/hr and $8.25/hr for "employees receiving tips".
Tax mate the reason I give my name and address is simple if you don't it becomes a criminal matter and the police will be involved, if you do it is a civil matter and the restaurants only recourse is to sue. That happened once, they claimed and I agreed that the $40 bottle of wine was perfect and I should pay, I argued that the wine was purchased to enhance the main course and that as the steaks were badly cooked and of inferior meat that only a full frontal lobotomy would have enhanced our dinning experience. I won and was awarded my full costs
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Why are please, thank you and you are welcome to difficult for some folks to say? Really irritates me that people can't be bothered with these basics. It drives my husband insane when in response to "thank you" you get "uh huh". Is it that much harder to say you're welcome Another thing that peeves me is not receiving thank you notes (and I would even accept emails) for shower, wedding, or graduation gifts! I taught my daughter to send thank you notes when she was very young and I continued to remind her into her young adulthood (even though she had mastered the art by then) just my job to make sure she "minds her manners"! Lol!
One more rude thing that I can't stand...people leaving there shopping cart/buggy in a parking space. This falls under grocery store etiquette. I always return my cart and I really resent having to move/return one left by some lazy sot in order to park! Shame on them. Uh oh! My "soap box" is coming out!
We must be from the same genetic pool
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I haven't read this entire thread so don't know if this was mentioned or not, but, has anyone noticed what bad manners are used on tv - commercials, programs, etc. I've noticed several of the chefs on tv talking with food in their mouth and the commercials show people cramming their mouths with whatever the product that is being advertised. No wonder so many people have forgotten their manners, if indeed they were ever taught.
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